8/21/2026 at 12:24:18 AM
It is funny with Linux (the kernel). From the outside it looks like almost nothing ever changes. You switch the computer on, it works away in the background to bring up the desktop and have everything talk. From that perspective it feels like nothing has changed in decades.But then you look at the change log, and almost everything you see added sounds really useful to someone working on this stuff. 35 years of work on this and there is still so much to be done even if you most people using it never directly feel it.
by ColdStream
8/21/2026 at 12:47:31 AM
Strongly disagree. Hardware support improved by leaps and bounds last decade and a half. Namespace isolation and cgroups driven containerization. eBPF appeared and gained adoption. Async I/O (and later just everything async) converged on io_uring. Btrfs is _stable_ - some people believed it would never be possible, ever. All kinds of scheduling were iterated and iterated over.All these things are visible across the board, both from developers and end users side.
by reisse
8/21/2026 at 1:45:20 AM
I have been using Linux on the desktop since the late 90's. Other than increase hardware support, I have not tangentially noticed/felt almost anything you have mentioned here. When I fire up the desktop and load Firefox, I do not feel or see the sandboxing, the scheduler, the file system or the I/O. It just works.Yes, we interact with it all the time but it isn't something that the end user would notice and that is a great thing. If you are not directly poking around with that stuff, you shouldn't notice it.
That they are so seamless should be seen as a badge of honor.
by ColdStream
8/21/2026 at 5:54:47 AM
I also have been using Linux for over 20 years and I agree that hardware support is the most noticable.This year I have installed Linux Mint on computers from people who wanted to jump from Windows to Linux. Every time I booted via USB, installed Linux and 10 minutes later everything was working. This would not have happened 10 years ago. Back then there would always be an issue with a video driver, WiFi driver or audio driver.
Of course there are still hardware issues for some special deviced, but today Linux just runs fine for most people. And that's a great accomplishment.
by bdhdhduuyd
8/21/2026 at 9:48:29 AM
> This would not have happened 10 years ago.Funny you say that, as I was installing Ubuntu on peoples laptops and it just worked, like 15 years ago... :-)
by 0points
8/21/2026 at 12:08:25 PM
"I installed Ubuntu on peoples laptops and was extremely lucky they happened to have compatible hardware or didn't notice the stuff that didn't work and had a non-borked firmware". FTFY.This was absolutely not everyones experience, including mine.
by kjs3
8/21/2026 at 10:18:41 AM
Only on a select combination of blessed components and BIOS/EFI not half-ass broken to the tune it only worked somewhat stable on Windows.Anything with split iGPU/dGPU was a mess no matter what and where, WiFi that was not Intel was a mess, suspend to ram and suspend to disk were a coin flip if the system would wake up again or if it would decide to wake up on its own and overheat itself to panic.
by mschuster91
8/21/2026 at 8:51:23 AM
I’ve seen people say that for 20 yearsby hdgvhicv
8/21/2026 at 12:54:48 AM
I run Linux as my primary operating system and I have never even heard of eBPF! I'd be surprised if most end users have.by Mond_
8/21/2026 at 1:29:08 AM
Seems like parent thread spoke from perspective of developer/tech savvy person.But even from end-user perspective, maybe its hard to see change when you compare one year or so, but over somewhat longer period I definitely see improvements. Over say a decade or so, wifi/bluetooth/trackpad support has significantly improved. Over last 5 years, I think gaming has become huge and you can actually use Linux as gaming machine. In last 3 years or so, I think I've seen my 5k display using Thunderbolt work much better. Fractional scaling also works much nicer.
NVIDIA GPUs are not shitty to use on Linux, and AMD has been working great for slightly longer. UEFI/TPM works much better now as well, where I don't have to worry about booting in legacy mode when using GPU drivers.
I didn't have to think about any of these above. If I think harder, I can likely come up with many more.
by truncate
8/21/2026 at 7:29:44 AM
btrfs is stable?? I used it a couple of years ago and really didn’t have a positive experience. I’ve found ZFS much more stableby shepherdjerred
8/21/2026 at 10:48:05 AM
It was the default on SUSE / OpenSUSE for years. Haven't used them for a while, not sure whether it still is. No problems with basic functionality including snapshots. I believe some RAID configurations were experimental for long time.by usr1106
8/21/2026 at 12:19:39 PM
Maybe. I think there's still no chance of repair when it blows up. Only FS since Reiser and early XFS that I've completely lost data to on healthy hardware.Whichever one of my test machines is using btrfs is doing fine, though, so on a subjective level that one's been stable enough.
by a96
8/21/2026 at 12:12:31 PM
It's basically fine as long as you read the release notes carefully and don't do anything the release notes say not to do (e.g. RAID5, let the disk fill up). It still has some sharp edges, but they're all documented.by kjs3
8/21/2026 at 11:10:09 AM
Yes. I have used it for 15 years without any problems. Just keep track of snapshots and consumed snapshot space. Besides that, works great!by abc123abc123
8/21/2026 at 8:05:59 AM
The disk full scenario is greatly improved. Still buggy, but it is recoverable.Raid 5 is still consider unsafe.
Don't run postgresql on it.
So..... it's "very stable, unless you do this or that" state.
by j16sdiz
8/21/2026 at 8:01:20 AM
Been using it for a year or so on my main box. Never had any kind of issue. Snapshots saved my ass a couple of times. All in all it’s been pretty boring (in a good way)by FacelessJim
8/21/2026 at 8:14:59 AM
Yes, even Bcachefs was on and off through versionsby arikrahman
8/21/2026 at 12:12:57 PM
Isn't this the case with most well established software?There is still a lot of work done on the background, perhaps even more than ever.
But unless you are a power user eagerly waiting for one of the things currently worked on, you wouldn't notice or care unless the interface changes (which usually only happens on visual interfaces).
by fallingbananna
8/21/2026 at 2:40:36 AM
I've been daily driving Linux since ubuntu 12.04. Things have improved a lot. It used to be the best OS for (a certain class of) programmers. It's now the OS I installed on my 7 year old son's computer. Things like connecting Bluetooth peripherals, multiple audio devices, multiple screens (with multiple DPI) are a not just possible, but easy now, and robust.by sankhao
8/21/2026 at 7:29:39 AM
i remember back in the day, when i built my project, using 100% cpu, the whole system became lagging and choppy and you really can't do anything anymore.Now it behaves more like Windows/Mac, even when 100%, my youtube/spotify tab can still run smoothly.
(Of course i think there will be hit in some areas, like my code would be built slower, there is no free meal).
by mrheosuper
8/21/2026 at 2:13:17 AM
Maybe it's distro packaging, but I suspect it's the kernel, too: In the 20 years I have dipped my toes into Linux, there is no better time to be a desktop user than today. With CachyOS and modern kernel, I have zero audio issues, zero GPU issues, (thanks to Wine/Steam Proton) no gaming issues, and much more rare instances of wifi or sleep problems. The idea of having to install hacky wifi drivers from USB stick are over.by unethical_ban
8/21/2026 at 12:30:04 PM
Actually, i was waiting for 7.2 in order not to "install hacky wifi drivers from usb stick" XD, because mt7927 was not supported, so neither wifi nor bluetooth have been working out of the boxby antonyshaps
8/21/2026 at 8:04:03 AM
Not really. I never had this less issues on Linux with hardware. I remember 15 years back when I wanted to install it on a Desktop/Laptop, many things simply didn't work. Now you can install Linux on a self-assembled box and 99% of things will work out of the box.by csomar
8/21/2026 at 5:05:14 AM
> From the outside it looks like almost nothing ever changesYou should try to compile a custom kernel for your machine and strip the unneeded things out. Good luck.
Linux has diabetes.
by hulitu
8/21/2026 at 7:28:16 AM
Things that are unneeded, ie. unmaintained, eventually get purged. It happens quite regularly. For nearly every kconfig option, someone needs it enough to maintain it. But I agree, `make menuconfig' is overwhelming.by encom