alt.hn

8/3/2026 at 10:58:12 AM

The fading American Dream: Visa uncertainty drives Indian tech workers back home

https://thefederal.com/category/news/h1b-visa-indian-tech-workers-return-india-us-jobs-245525

by alephnerd

8/3/2026 at 2:47:24 PM

The article mentions the staffing firm's name incorrectly: it's not Xfino, but Xpheno. When I checked their website, the only "research" was from June 2025, with no sources cited for the numbers shown for the "research." And those jobs are limited to India. [1]

[1] https://www.xpheno.com/researches/june-2025-active-tech-jobs...

by xaxaxb

8/3/2026 at 4:31:51 PM

This article is about the Indian reverse brain drain, so Indian tech jobs outlook is what matters.

And it's true by and large - most Indians who immigrated to the US after 2010 will never become citizens in their lifetime because of the green card backlog.

Every person who was born in India and is the US on any visa except an O-1 knows their time in the US will eventually end because of the GC backlog. And the other options (eg. Canada, UK, Germany) aren't as entice because of the horrid job market.

by alephnerd

8/3/2026 at 9:53:05 PM

> most Indians who immigrated to the US after 2010 will never become citizens in their lifetime because of the green card backlog.

While a green card makes it easier to get a US citizenship, it is not a requirement for it.

by thisislife2

8/3/2026 at 10:02:53 PM

You cannot naturalize in the US without a green card.

Almost all Indian nationals who immigrated to the US since 2010 were born in India and as a result of the country of birth backlog will never get American permanent residency or citizenship in their lifetime.

The only ways to become an American without having a green card is being born in America or being born to an American citizen.

by alephnerd

8/3/2026 at 5:03:06 PM

This is a poorly researched article with no credible actual statistics. The entire article is based on a staffing company's numbers which have no citations. While what you say may be public opinion in general, sharing this on HN without checking the validity of the sources adds up to the sensationalism of this topic on the internet. This will add up to fear on the topic, not help anything, unless of course the stats are legit.

Also, any legitimate research should mention conflict of interest by the researching organization. In this case, it's a staffing company, so there's reason to believe that there might be conflicts of interest.

by xaxaxb

8/3/2026 at 10:13:02 PM

It's an irreversible fact of how naturalization works in the US. The only way to naturalize is by getting a green card, holding it for 5 years, and then applying.

But GCs have a country cap, and the current backlog for those born in India is in the decades range.

EVERY Indian, Chinese, Mexican, and Filipino national knows this as those are the 4 nations with country caps today.

Chinese nationals have a similar backlog as Indians hence why the reverse brain drain began in the late 2000s and early 2010s. White-Collar Mexicans tend to use the TN visa to maintain de facto permanent residency. For Pinoys I actually have no idea.

by alephnerd

8/3/2026 at 2:26:22 PM

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by two_handfuls

8/3/2026 at 2:33:11 PM

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