alt.hn

7/24/2026 at 9:31:48 AM

Flux 3 X Mimic: The Next Generation of Video-Action Models

 https://bfl.ai/blog/flux-3-mimic

by kensai

7/24/2026 at 11:11:15 AM

The video at around 3.30min, where the robot arm took 3 attempts to reseat the window trim, was quite unnerving - I have not seen such resolving before. Is it new or am I way out of the loop?

by GiffertonThe3rd

7/24/2026 at 12:30:28 PM

You are indeed out of the loop. Google did something arguably more impressive more than a year ago, with a VLA based bot replacing a tensioned timing belt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AAFiuEP7iE

by dinfinity

7/24/2026 at 3:23:07 PM

if you want to catch up, i would say Generalist is the state of the art in dexterous manipulation tasks, you can learn more here https://generalistai.com/blog/gen-1

by quadrature

7/24/2026 at 11:26:00 AM

Yes that was impressive.

by ra

7/24/2026 at 11:10:59 AM

Really interesting. Upshot: a well trained multimodal video generation model has a world representation model trained inside it. They’ve done some work lifting this world model out and deploying it to robots, where it seems to work well.

On the one hand, this isn’t a new idea, and the quality video models certainly have understanding of materials, light, the world (at least in an Occam’s razor sense of understanding). I’m not aware of a video lab that’s turned itself into a robot lab yet, though; perhaps this would be a first, or a new sort of obvious-in-retrospect business path: train video model, sell video generation, scale, use scale to train robot things: profit.

I found their hands very interesting - looks like a bunch of stuff hidden in gloves - Xiami’s Robotics-1 foundation model just released videos of users training on some pretty standard looking grippers; to the point that there are demo videos of people putting on gripper type gloves to make video to train that model.

The BFL model looks like it doesn’t need that at all. Given the difficulty of the hardware side, I’ll be curious to see what they do with this.

by vessenes

7/25/2026 at 1:06:24 AM

Rhoda Ai also does vidéo to robot models

by davidguetta

7/24/2026 at 11:47:33 AM

Ok the phrasing here, it’s, it’s just -

> However, compared to more specialized approaches for representation learning they produce less disentangled representations, which puts a ceiling on their usefulness for tasks that require world understanding.

Only an LLM would use a less disentangled representation of the concept “more entangled” when trying to explain to people in the real world why less disentangled representations are not as useful for modeling the real world.

by flufluflufluffy

7/24/2026 at 12:56:12 PM

We’re just pulling signs of LLM touched writing out of our ass now. Might be time to move on from the accusations, assume all writing is at least LLM assisted and judge it purely on the quality.

by phoghed

7/24/2026 at 4:41:53 PM

Yeah, as if people haven't used words like "irregardless" way before LLM's already

by teodosin

7/24/2026 at 7:15:11 PM

After all, the LLM's learned it from somewhere

by cwillu

7/24/2026 at 3:26:23 PM

I really hope this is how we are going to adapt to LLM era.

by visarga

7/24/2026 at 12:20:10 PM

Bad news, humans write silly things all the time. If anything, LLMs are less likely to make awkward phrasings than people, because they aren’t found in the training data very often.

by pennomi

7/24/2026 at 4:58:12 PM

goddamn people it’s a joke

by flufluflufluffy

7/24/2026 at 4:33:43 PM

> Ok the phrasing here, it’s, it’s just -

That dash definitely means an LLM wrote this comment. /s

by stronglikedan

7/24/2026 at 7:16:10 PM

Nah, that was an n-dash, which is widely respected as humans-only.

by cwillu

7/24/2026 at 12:49:40 PM

This is awesome.

What's sad to me is that we have all this awesome technology, but movies are worse than ever.

I usually watch movies from decades ago just to find something decent and it's amazing how with goofy-looking puppets the storytelling was 1000 times better.

This is probably an unrelated rant, sorry

by altern8

7/24/2026 at 12:53:58 PM

Survivorship bias, possible that you just aren’t watching all the shitty ones that nobody remembers.

by phoghed

7/24/2026 at 1:11:15 PM

That's exactly the ones I like! On Saturdays I watch cheesy horror movies from the 80s.

But with my GF I watch whatever is rated >= 8 on Imdb and the 8s from years ago are ALWAYS much, much better than the recent ones.

Maybe I just don't like the style. All the over explaining, etc.

by altern8

7/24/2026 at 1:59:43 PM

I think most movies drop a bit in IMDb score over their first few years. That might (partly) explain it. Or you just prefer older movies . :-)

by vanviegen

7/24/2026 at 3:53:31 PM

Interesting! I didn't know that. Could be both, too :-)

by altern8

7/24/2026 at 4:36:12 PM

I regularly stream movies from Screambox, FilmRise and Alter as background music while I work from home. I love cheesy horror, but they're just bad enough to keep me company without distracting me

by stronglikedan

7/24/2026 at 10:31:07 PM

Still survivorship bias. Those movies are curated! Well curated if you like them I might add.

by kranke155

7/24/2026 at 3:52:16 PM

OP replied but I’m chipping in too, I’ve also been watching a lot of older movies specifically the more B list and C list which weren’t successful cult classics and they’re still better than anything new. The low production and low talent C list ones are still cheesy and the performances don’t land anywhere near as well as they could but they feel more genuine and creative than what passes for a movie these days.

by throwthrowuknow

7/24/2026 at 1:05:52 PM

time is the great filter

by acdanger

7/24/2026 at 1:11:49 PM

What's a good recent movie I could watch? Today is Friday

by altern8

7/24/2026 at 3:49:49 PM

Odyssey is supposed to be pretty good. Main complaint I've seen is that it's not as horny as the source material.

by Rebelgecko

7/24/2026 at 4:11:10 PM

Thank you! I'll take a look

by altern8

7/24/2026 at 5:16:59 PM

Do you like horror? That's the only genre where risky projects are getting consistent funding. Obsession and Backrooms are both really good.

by thomastjeffery

7/24/2026 at 3:04:25 PM

Was going to pull out my default recommendation of Oldboy but then I realized it’s 23 years old, which just aged me greatly

by phoghed

7/24/2026 at 5:05:32 PM

No Other Choice (by the same director) is incredible, and even relevant to this post.

by thomastjeffery

7/24/2026 at 4:11:31 PM

Welcome to the club! :-)

by altern8

7/24/2026 at 4:57:59 PM

would you refuse to invest in BFL because Robin Rombach doesn't know anything about making movies?

sora is done. can you find me one person brave enough to say, "Bill Peebles, a nice guy, doesn't know anything about making movies?" this isn't just a VC problem, this is why it is called the Hollywood No, but that said: maybe the hollywood no is the problem? in video games it has been called Toxic Positivity. are you getting it now?

by doctorpangloss

7/24/2026 at 9:57:19 AM

It's nice to see partnerships between European startups.

by rlupi

7/24/2026 at 12:33:48 PM

We're barreling head-on into a crisis where humans have even less value unless they own the means of production. Dark days ahead, friends.

by idiotsecant

7/24/2026 at 12:26:55 PM

this is the future. but also the present.

if you know some one out of the software development/engineering worlds, please forward this to them

by doubleorseven

7/24/2026 at 12:32:22 PM

OpenAi cries in sora

by htrp

7/24/2026 at 11:20:00 AM

Amazing work.

u.i. Zugló robot mikor?

by takd

7/24/2026 at 3:25:54 PM

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by tancoai_dev

7/24/2026 at 10:22:18 AM

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by deton3991

7/24/2026 at 10:32:19 PM

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by reindeer2

7/24/2026 at 11:00:28 AM

If Amazon does not buy them, the CEO should be fired...

by johnbarron

7/24/2026 at 12:06:51 PM

Are you American? We would prefer it to stay a European company. I personally hope Mistral buys them or somehow they unite to make a stand.

by kensai

7/24/2026 at 12:53:01 PM

Mistral is much worse in its respective field than Flux in their own so I hope not.

by Tenoke

7/24/2026 at 2:03:23 PM

Perhaps.. Mistral seems to be focussing more on LLM application rather than foundation models. Seeing that the latter may be becoming commodities, Mistral may come out ahead.

by vanviegen

7/24/2026 at 2:00:31 PM

BFL resides in the same region as BMW and Audi. Quite wealthy and pretty fierce to protect their car industry. If Audi or any other german car maker sees BFL as the future of automation, it will be rather hard to buy them out.

by Yokohiii

7/24/2026 at 11:55:12 AM

I think you meant to type "promoted".

by windexh8er