6/24/2026 at 9:10:33 PM
by brandonb
6/24/2026 at 10:19:58 PM
The US spent $2 Trillion dollars on Medicare and Medicaid in 2024 [1][2]. If the US spent this money as efficiently as Japan (or UK [3], ...) it could pay for Healthcare for every single resident with this $2 Trillion dollars.[1] https://www.kff.org/medicaid/medicaid-financing-the-basics/#...
[2] https://usafacts.org/answers/how-much-does-medicare-cost-the...
by bhelkey
6/24/2026 at 9:18:08 PM
$16,500 per person is insane. Someone is charging way too much for goods and services, and someone is paying it with no questions asked.by tencentshill
6/24/2026 at 9:41:18 PM
The Seven-Times Markup: The Johns Hopkins study analyzed the nation's top 100 hospitals by revenue and found that their "chargemaster" prices (the initial sticker price) averaged 700% of the actual cost of providing the service.https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/finance/top-100-us-hos...
by downrightmike
6/24/2026 at 10:09:38 PM
We could end the Triffin dilemma by no longer maintaining the dollar as the unit of international reserve. This would eliminate the biggest driver of the trade deficit and via a reversing of the Baumol effect, lower the price of health care and education.The only problem? No one has the political will to do it.
> Someone is charging way too much for goods and services
It's more money chasing meager supply. They're charging market rates. However when the market is distorted through the described arrangement, it's clear what has to change - the structure of international finance.
by kelseyfrog
6/25/2026 at 10:08:04 AM
What’s the problem with the trade deficit?Americans are getting actual products and services in return for depreciating IOUs.
It’s like a loan where the lender pays interest.
Why would anyone be against that?
Note: This is different from the strategic interest in maintaining domestic industries. That’s very defensible. But I don’t understand the fear of a trade deficit denominated in your own currency (other countries have bigger genuine concerns with a dollar denominated trade deficit, because if their currency falls against the dollar suddenly, they’re kind of screwed, at least in the short term).
by adjejmxbdjdn
6/25/2026 at 8:30:08 PM
The US imports more goods than it exports. It also exports more services than it imports. The US Department of Commerce breaks down the numbers for import and export by goods and services[1].Sure, the US benefits by having cheap goods. This means precisely that there's more money chasing services. It's why we have cheap televisions(yay!) but expensive healthcare, education, housing. Those things cannot be made elsewhere and imported into the US to benefit from the power of trade imbalance.
1. Page 14 of 56. https://www.bea.gov/sites/default/files/2026-06/trad0426.pdf
by kelseyfrog
6/24/2026 at 9:32:19 PM
IMO, there's an interesting opportunity for AI to make healthcare deflationary.For example, Medicare is launching a new program in July that pays a fixed rate for achieving defined outcomes, like lowering blood pressure or cholesterol. Medicare's explicit goal here is to create incentives to automate the repetitive parts of care delivery with software. (Much of preventive cardiology is surprisingly algorithmic and guideline-driven, so this is more plausible than it seems.)
This reverses the incentives of the current system, where CPT codes incentivize doing more "stuff" (but not necesarily delivering the most effective care efficiently).
If you're a software engineer who cares about health, and have been sitting on the sidelines till now, I think the next few years are a really interesting time to make a contribution.
by brandonb
6/24/2026 at 9:57:29 PM
> IMO, there's an interesting opportunity for AI to make healthcare deflationary.How many times have I heard this, about how many techs. But this time for real?
Health spending in the us is too tied up with the country’s economy for it to ever be reduced. Same goes for housing. The cost of both of these will continue to increase. As long as the investor class is satisfied, this is all that matters.
by ballsac
6/24/2026 at 10:12:33 PM
> Health spending in the us is too tied up with the country’s economy for it to ever be reduced. Same goes for housingThese are massively incomparable. Most householders live in homes they own. Those homes, moreover, are usually a substantial if not dominating fraction of their net worth. And they're leveraged. This produces a broad level of interest in maintaning or raising home prices.
Healthcare is more narrowly owned. It's not as leveraged. And very few housholds have a commanding fraction of their net worth in healthcare assets.
by JumpCrisscross
6/24/2026 at 10:20:46 PM
It is however a highly inelastic good and some of the most expensive care happens when the person who ends up paying isn’t in the state of mind to make decisions such as being unconscious for emergency care, or late in life when dealing with dementia and other diseases that rob you of your faculties. It’s primed to be able to extract everything because most people value being alive above everything else.by lovich
6/24/2026 at 10:29:15 PM
> the person who ends up paying isn’t in the state of mind to make decisions such as being unconscious for emergency care, or late in life when dealing with dementia and other diseases that rob you of your facultiesMost healthcare in America isn't paid for by the patient.
by JumpCrisscross
6/25/2026 at 12:05:20 AM
Ultimately, but it’s charged to the patient who then has it paid by whatever mechanism (insurance/medicare/medicaid/family/etc)by lovich
6/25/2026 at 12:50:16 AM
[dead]by ballsac
6/24/2026 at 9:40:04 PM
> If you're a software engineer who cares about health, and have been sitting on the sidelines till now, I think the next few years are a really interesting time to make a contribution.do you have thoughts on what that looks like? what does the hiring landscape look like?
by skt5
6/24/2026 at 10:52:50 PM
do you have thoughts on what that looks like?There is so much to be done and it is not going to be solved by any one thing. That in mind, something like an independent third party patient advocates / advisors would be great. It is hard to be an informed patient these days, Navigating insurance and paperwork is tough and getting second opinions is sometimes had.
by tocs3
6/25/2026 at 3:16:02 AM
Fascinating. I feel like smart person + data (context such as health records, labs, insurance docs, etc.) + LLM -> some helpful tips for navigating the process. However, evaluating the tips on whether they are helpful or not would be hard for a smart person without the expertise.Or put another way - how does a smart lay person evaluate the independent advocates? Do incentives align?
by skt5
6/24/2026 at 10:14:14 PM
Right now lots of good health companies hiring, including my own (Empirical). https://www.workatastartup.com/ lets you filter YC companies to see health startups, by stage and location (or remote).by brandonb
6/25/2026 at 3:16:59 AM
Any advice for a senior/staff level FAANG dev working in ML tooling but not in the health space interested in this kinda stuff?What are good things to read, etc?
by skt5
6/25/2026 at 12:47:04 AM
It depends on who’s using it, and I’d say the doctors can use it more intelligently than the patients.by clickety_clack
6/24/2026 at 10:18:28 PM
"AI will solve this deeply rooted social problem" is, and forgive my bluntness, is one of the most idiotic AI opinions I've seen this week.The only thing that will fix American healthcare is absolute abolishment of private insurance. That's it. No amount of gentle incentive tweaking or whizbang technology is going to solve the fundamental problem of human greed and immorality.
Allowing private health insurance to exist is inhumane and can only result in profit extraction and exploitation of the most vulnerable members of society whose only options are literally to pay up or die.
That's the break. We've allowed profit-seeking individuals to stand in between citizens and literal life saving medicine. And you think the solution to that is to add more middlemen and profiteering exploitative corporations. Utter insanity.
The solution is to make it illegal for anyone to say "no, you may not have this life saving medication or proceedure". The solution is to remove profit from medicine. To allow profiteering and gatekeeping of people's very lives is immoral in the extreme. Giving more private corporations more influence is insanity. The solution is less private influence of medicine, not more.
by vitally3643
6/24/2026 at 10:47:36 PM
How exactly do you propose to "remove profit from medicine?" If someone wants to have a procedure done and their insurance doesn't want to pay, they can still pay the doctor to get it done themselves. And it will still be very expensive because doctors in the US are used to charging very high salaries and using medical equipment and medicines that cost a lot of money. Insurance companies are required by law to use 80 percent of their income to pay claims out to their customers already. Medicine costs a lot.by alex0015
6/26/2026 at 4:05:17 PM
In addition to all of the stuff insurance denies, they also won't pay for anything considered elective care (and that's a pretty broad brush). There are ways around this but that's neither here nor there for this discussion.Like the other commenter suggested, medical tourism is a viable answer. Most Americans have probably heard of Turkey for hair transplants, but the truth is that certain countries specialize in specific procedures, and are the BEST in the world at performing them, and with the best outcomes.
I've done several procedures abroad and saved 70-80% vs the US cost, and that's including the travel and vacation portion. Yes, medicine costs a lot, but most people are ignorant to where most of that money is going to pay for, and how expensive the "system" makes things in the US.
by jmaha
6/25/2026 at 1:23:25 AM
The insurance companies should allow for dental or medical tourism. Let’s put the people who haven’t had to compete globally get a chance to. If you have enough money you can do it yourself but that doesn’t help poor folksby b3ing
6/24/2026 at 11:36:12 PM
Even if you eliminate private insurance, the amount of money that the country is willing to spend on medicine is finite. Someone is still making the decisions of what they'll pay for and what they won't. The difference is that it would be a faceless government bureaucrat instead of a faceless private insurance bureaucrat.Would that make it better, or worse? And why?
by AnimalMuppet
6/25/2026 at 10:03:54 AM
America’s decision to make healthcare a for profit industry is the root of all of this.The obvious points are medicines and equipment. To some degree, these are actually the most justifiable parts of the industry that should be for profit.
The parts that are far less justified: - The insurance industry surrounding healthcare. Obamacare brought in some regulation that drastically slowed the growth of healthcare costs. - The education industry surrounding healthcare. Becoming a doctor in the U.S. is incredibly expensive. You rack up massive loans, you’re racking up interest on those loans for years, well into your late 20s (including the loans you racked up for your undergrad), and then you’re spending the first decade of your career all the way to the late 30s, just paying those loans back. You’re one of the most sought after professional in the world and yet it takes you until your late 30s to basically break even. The upshot of that is you charge a ton not just to pay back your loans but to justify spending so much time and energy on a career that means you start being money positive for the first time in your late 30s. - Insurance. The American legal system that does not place any penalty on frivolous lawsuits essentially inserts a significant cost due to bad actors on everyone. Personally, I’m not clear on what this cost actually is and how significant it is, but if you talk to doctors and hospital administrators, they seem to believe it’s incredibly high. - Hospitals being for profit. I actually think for profit hospitals are more efficient than non profit ones, but the problem here is what they prioritize. A non profit hospital system may prioritize family care and regular checkups to keep people healthy and prevent them from falling sick in the first place. A for profit hospital probably prioritizes surgeries and elaborate procedures that make a lot of money. And that’s before we get to spending on customer acquisition, either due to fancy buildings etc or just straight up advertisement and marketing.
by adjejmxbdjdn
6/24/2026 at 9:59:45 PM
The plan to extract as much wealth as possible out of families with members near end of life is showing excellent results.by androiddrew
6/24/2026 at 9:23:03 PM
How much of that spending is continuously treating symptoms vs. finding and curing root causes? At what point do the pentagon and other agencies step in and treat this like an unsustainable existential threat to the country?by Bender
6/24/2026 at 10:33:27 PM
Never going to happen. Look how people freaked when politely asked to wear a mask.by 2OEH8eoCRo0
6/24/2026 at 9:38:05 PM
Surprised a healthcare CEO hasn't tried to bribe the gov to just let them be the only game in town.by downrightmike
6/24/2026 at 10:55:36 PM
Aren't they about the only game in town?by tocs3
6/26/2026 at 1:26:26 PM
The problem is the artificial restrictions on doctors to drive up prices and the artificial restrictions on medical equipment (patents) to drive up prices.by silexia
6/24/2026 at 10:28:00 PM
Paywalled.by MoonWalk