6/20/2026 at 5:35:42 PM
>3D in 2D in 3D. OpenGL clients can use GLX rendering over X11. Compatibility varies, as it did in the 2000s.Made me chuckle. I think at one point in my life I actually knew which exact GL versions and features were working on which servers. Also it's pretty cool.
Still won't buy an AVP.
by fp64
6/20/2026 at 9:38:22 PM
why not? Personally, I tried but the crap with my prescription because I wear glasses was too much, so I didn't end up getting one because I fail at executive function.by fragmede
6/21/2026 at 12:45:30 AM
im an apple enjoyer with disposable income, i bought because my brother worked on the foveated rendering, but goddamn it’s so heavy that if i use for >2hrs i’ll have neck pain for >2 days. it’s neat and fantastic for chores and cooking if i wear for 30min at a time but super impractical for me to actually use if im not speed running exactly one taskby jitl
6/21/2026 at 8:52:05 AM
Are you using the new better balanced harness?by joxdosba
6/21/2026 at 1:03:10 PM
yes. i think i need to do F1 driver neck training or something.by jitl
6/21/2026 at 3:15:16 AM
I've been interested in VR for a while and would be interested to try out a headset I could actually work in, but personally my interest in the Apple Vision Pro basically disappeared when the Steam Frame was announced.It's lower resolution, but I think it would probably be sufficient for light work, and I'm not really interested in the pass-through camera features of the AVP. The real differentiator though was that the steam frame will also work with my existing computer for gaming, and I think it's likely to be much more hackable than the Apple Vision.
by solid_fuel
6/21/2026 at 5:37:13 PM
Yes I really hope the memory storage just leads to a delay and not a cancellation.by ianlevesque
6/21/2026 at 12:33:47 AM
I need a new couch more than I need an AR headset, for one. $3,500 is a lot of money for a glorified devkit.by bigyabai
6/21/2026 at 1:40:35 AM
The Apple Lisa was introduced at around $10k (~$32k in today’s dollars). I do agree it is expensive but not historically out of line for a version one of a new product category for the company.by mulderc
6/21/2026 at 1:49:08 AM
And thousands of Lisas went unsold, eventually getting dumped in a landfill after failing to find an eager audience like the Apple II enjoyed. There's a lesson, there.by bigyabai
6/21/2026 at 2:19:40 AM
Without the Lisa we wouldn’t have the Mac. The Vision Pro is a first gen of a new product category for Apple and I fully expect whatever comes from it will be very different than what we have today.by mulderc
6/21/2026 at 6:17:32 AM
The Mac arrived one year and five days after the Lisa. Vision Pro is over two years old now. It got a speed bump, but not a price decrease.I think the Vision Pro will be more like the Newton vs current iPads. Something will eventually replace it, but it will be significantly different, not slightly different, like Lisa vs Mac (I know they cut corners for the Mac, changing some nice OS features)
by Someone
6/21/2026 at 11:58:52 AM
> Without the Lisa we wouldn’t have the Mac.Without the NeXt Cube, we wouldn’t have the modern MacOS, or, for that matter, the iPhone (or Vision). Apple would certainly not be a multi-trillion-dollar company, and the Cube was a commercial flop.
In that case, it wasn’t the hardware, but the operating system and app development framework that made the difference.
by ChrisMarshallNY
6/21/2026 at 10:52:02 PM
And that will be true about the Apple Vision too, how do you get there if you don’t have the ability to put the operating system and the hardware together and then iterate, the biggest problems with the Apple Vision is that it needs to be three or four times faster performance wise than what it is, needs to be half the size and it definitely needs to be more energy efficient from a battery standpoint and last but not least half the current price how does that happen? Only through iteration over time.by Danox
6/21/2026 at 11:27:59 PM
AR simply has no market. Apple could sell Vision Pro for $10,000 apiece, if there was natural demand for high-quality AR hardware. But the product isn't competing for Hololens' commercial contracts, and it forfeit the consumer VR segment on release. The remainder of consumer-forward AR experiences are even less lucrative than Zuckerberg's commoditized Quests. Apple wants to build a nonexistent market with an inaccessible product.Until that demand actually materializes, Apple's ability to miniaturize the tech is inconsequential. Vision Pro's "iPad for your face" philosophy is not enough to carve out a niche, and definitely not enough to displace the iPhone or the Mac.
by bigyabai
6/21/2026 at 5:46:46 PM
You can pay half that on eBay at the moment.by wl
6/21/2026 at 7:45:57 PM
Still expensive, for a devkit. $1,750 would buy me a new in-box Pimax Crystal, or likely a Steam Frame with enough money left over to afford a Steam Deck.Vision Pro just doesn't have the content to justify that price. I use VR for flight simming, but even at half-off the Vision Pro looks like one of the worst immersive headsets money can buy.
by bigyabai
6/21/2026 at 10:43:31 PM
Actually, that’s cheap….by Danox
6/21/2026 at 11:14:36 PM
It is more expensive than all three VR headsets I have owned and the PC I built for them, combined.by bigyabai
6/21/2026 at 9:45:39 AM
> why not?For me it's nausea and motion sickness. When my ears don't sync with my eyes, my brain calls bug(), and it doesn't end well.
by bayindirh
6/21/2026 at 11:05:21 AM
PrisonOS. It isn't a computer. They control everything to take 30% sales and monopolize the ecosystem including controlling your whole body.by koolala