alt.hn

5/14/2026 at 6:13:10 PM

Using Chinese AI models to get a degree

https://nonogra.ph/using-chinese-ai-models-to-get-a-degree-05-14-2026

by han1

5/14/2026 at 9:11:37 PM

> subsidized by the Chinese government and available for free

China is taking the long play here. Western AI companies are VC funded so they need ROI and will eventually make the product worse if thats whats necessary to get it.

Its worth noting Chinese AI models are open source so even if the company goes bust their work is not lost forever as it is in the West.

by 382hi

5/14/2026 at 8:41:45 PM

> I was called in to explain "academic dishonesty" from apparently copying results from a former student who I had never met. I truly had no idea where Qwen got the results, I just cared that it was correct. I told them I found it on StackOverflow, which they believed and let me off with just one failed class to retake.

How did this happen? I assumed Qwen generated all its content? Even when its using web search or sifting through a document.

> So what did I learn? Yes you can use AI, and you don't need to burn thousands of dollars on Claude, when GLM and Qwen are subsidized by the Chinese government and available for free.

This is so true. I've gotten tons of help from Qwen, Kimi and GLM (Z.ai) when I have gotten stuck. All for free! We are at a point where we have access to very powerful models today. Especially Qwen models who have very good vision models, like truly vision models. You can upload graphs, diagrams and all kinds of images to let it analyze and discuss about it. It's not like the other models who just performs an OCR on the image, it truly analyzes the image. I am very thankful that I have access to these three sites for free. Especially Qwen and Z.ai.

by Alifatisk

5/14/2026 at 9:18:30 PM

> How did this happen? I assumed Qwen generated all its content? Even when its using web search or sifting through a document.

Qwen does generate everything, so I'm not exactly sure. It wasn't anything too unique, so it could've easily learned and regurgitated it from any one of hundreds of sites.

+1 on Qwen Vision, its far better than anything else I've seen, and its open source, woo!

What are Western models for other than being the ethics police when you ask about something controversial, if the Chinese models are superior and lack the moral / ethical BS? Don't trust China? Self-host Chinese models or host in AWS and verify the output!

by han1

5/14/2026 at 9:40:59 PM

I assume it was you who wrote the article, well done! It was entertaining to read.

by Alifatisk

5/14/2026 at 9:46:51 PM

Yep! It's genuine human slop!

The platform its on is open source and anyone can write anything anonymously if that's of interest

by han1

5/14/2026 at 8:45:10 PM

like most of the reddit posts these LLMs are trained on, this is a creative writing assignment

by agency

5/15/2026 at 1:28:52 AM

It’s not. It’s the current trend. You may be separated from the current cohort of students but I assure you.

It’s the trend.

by rootsudo

5/15/2026 at 2:22:55 AM

It is 100% legitimate, not "creative writing". The only value in college is the piece of paper to get a job. If you can get a job by lying about having the paper, even better!

by han1