alt.hn

5/1/2026 at 7:44:17 AM

Canonical/Ubuntu have been under DDoS

 https://status.canonical.com/#/incident/KNms6QK9ewuzz-7xUsPsNylV20jEt5kyKsd8A-3ptQEHpOd8VQ40ZQs-KD81fboQXeGZB94okNHdHBGlCv58Sw==

by jtlebigot

5/1/2026 at 10:47:27 AM

Though this outage may be more related to the copy.fail upgrade cycle, it reminds me of a thought I've had recently in respect of agents.

In the UK they have this issue called "TV pickup" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_pickup). TV pickup is where everyone in the UK watching a popular TV show gets up to boil a high-powered tea kettle at the same time on an ad break. This causes a temporary surge in electricity demand and leads to real outages. It was a mystery at first but now is accounted for.

I suspect the global internet is facing an "agent pickup" problem where significant changes (e.g., releases of new frontier models or new package versions) puts unpredictable pressure on arbitrary infrastructure as millions of distributed agents act to address the change simultaneously.

by piker

5/1/2026 at 11:26:57 AM

In the US we have the Super Bowl Flush: https://medium.com/nycwater/the-big-flush-on-super-bowl-sund...

by ImJasonH

5/1/2026 at 12:15:43 PM

It's literally the plot of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flushed_Away

by tgv

5/3/2026 at 11:19:05 AM

Watched that just a month or 2 ago with my 6YO. It's great, a very underrated film.

But it's not set during the Superb Owl flush isn't because the film is set in London, and most Londoners do not watch American football.

by lproven

5/2/2026 at 8:21:57 PM

Half time break for Coronation Street in the UK saw a power surge due to people putting the kettle on.

by tharmas

5/1/2026 at 3:12:06 PM

I had the same impulse (or at least copy.fail inducing many to upgrade at the same time.) However, it might be a "pro-Iran hacktivist group" according to

https://www.theregister.com/2026/05/01/canonical_confirms_ub...

"Canonical says its web infrastructure is under attack after a pro-Iran hacktivist group instructed its members to target the open source giant."

Perhaps more to do with extortion rather than activism. (I have no idea how accurate theregister is on this story.)

by kurlberg

5/1/2026 at 11:22:34 AM

Well, that and the rush to upgrade for copy.fail.

Has Ubuntu published patches yet?

by Yoric

5/1/2026 at 1:56:05 PM

Patch published to disable the affected module. No patch for the module itself yet.

by alecdw

5/2/2026 at 10:44:32 AM

That let me think: I think I have never compiled af_alg in any of my linux kernels.

Now, I worry about the linux user mount namespace code... because I run the steam client which valve forces people to have in their kernel because they don't want/know how to craft "correct" ELF64 binaries, namely "-static-libgcc -static-libstdc++" compiling/linking options, maximizing static linking refactoring a bit source code with the pre-processor to avoid symbol collisions.

by sylware

5/1/2026 at 11:06:38 AM

We're at the stage where we blame AI for anything as a first reaction?

(Love the tv pickup story. I also thought of that, in other situations)

by sig-11

5/1/2026 at 11:10:48 AM

Indeed. It is far more likely to be the copyfail issue.

by Hnrobert42

5/1/2026 at 11:33:47 AM

I wasn't blaming this issue on that in particular, just making an more general observation in line with the post. I'll make that clearer.

by piker

5/1/2026 at 12:40:23 PM

> leads to real outages.

Um, no.

I daresay you could find the odd example, as for any grid in a stressed situation, but it's not like we turn to each other every week in the dark and say "Oh, it must be half time at the Manchester United match".

by linker3000

5/1/2026 at 12:28:55 PM

Maybe they could use this DDoS attack as their 17th round technical interview. Any candidate who successfully mitigates the attack would then make it to the 18th round. Win win!

by mayhemducks

5/1/2026 at 2:38:55 PM

Do they finally meet a human being with an explanation on the position on the 18th round?

by Yoric

5/1/2026 at 6:26:19 PM

Depends on their high school GPA.

by fragmede

5/1/2026 at 8:32:15 PM

I did really well in Kindergarten, so I made it to the 22nd round.

by kps

5/2/2026 at 12:28:35 AM

They told me my grandpa was too dumb at round 47. I felt like I was close.

by irishcoffee

5/2/2026 at 1:16:09 AM

I got all the way to round 53, but it turned out that one of my semiaquatic tetrapod ancestors from the Carboniferous Period didn't perform on land as well as they would have liked, so that was it for me.

by jaennaet

5/2/2026 at 5:40:09 PM

5 internet points to you sir.

by mayhemducks

5/2/2026 at 10:24:25 PM

Is their interview process Dungeon Crawler Carl? Do you just apply to work at Canonical, and at the 3rd interview you get to pick what position you're applying for?

by joecot

5/1/2026 at 9:45:44 AM

While the timing with the copy.fail patches mentioned by a few comments here seems suspicious indeed, I have seen this repeating over the last few weeks: packages.ubuntu.com was hardly reachable on some days, causing apt-get to take forever to update the system. They have been struggling hard recently, it seems. Best of luck to the people having to deal with this mess on a holiday!

by TonyTrapp

5/2/2026 at 5:25:17 AM

The point of coincidental timing with copy.fail patches is that by DDoSing an upgrade mechanism for one of most popular distributions, you extend the time window certain systems remain vulnerable in order to exploit them.

by necovek

5/2/2026 at 11:50:45 AM

The point is that these apparent DDoSes have been going on for weeks, they are not necessarily related to copy.fail.

by TonyTrapp

5/2/2026 at 8:09:18 PM

Makes you wonder if certain parties were tipped off early

by nullpoint420

5/1/2026 at 8:34:31 AM

Tinfoil hat mode: a competitor wants to exploit copy.fail on some ubuntu servers, and is DDoSing canonical so that they can't update and thus patch the vuln

by Faaak

5/1/2026 at 9:40:48 AM

Double tinfoil hat mode: an attacker learned of my plan to finally update my personal computer out of 20.04 today and is DDoSing canonical so I can't do that and I remain vulnerable to the backdoors they've found.

The plot thickens...

by yallpendantools

5/1/2026 at 12:30:19 PM

you are the center of all this, I knew it.

by pixel_popping

5/1/2026 at 10:20:21 AM

If you can access AF_ALG on a server you don't need to do shenanigans like that. It's much easier to just find another bug and exploit that one instead.

The copy.fail website is very silly, it is not a special bug. If anyone gets compromised by that vuln their node architecture was broken anyway, patching copy.fail doesn't help.

by bjackman

5/1/2026 at 10:33:28 AM

I thought copy.fail is a privelage escalation exploit, become root from a regular user? Am I missing something?

How would "node architecture" make people vulnerable to this?

You have to have shell access to a victim first right? Or am I missing something?

by mustardo

5/1/2026 at 1:15:01 PM

Yeah you need native code execution, and if you have AF_ALG access there is clearly no sandboxing in place. At that point it's game over on Linux, there are too many bugs. Even if you fix all the known ones in the current kernel, by the time the version with those fixes is qualified and released (not to mention, the machine must reboot), new LPEs have been discovered.

by bjackman

5/1/2026 at 4:35:55 PM

To convince me Linux is full of kernel LPE bugs, can you share some of the bugs?

by eggprices

5/2/2026 at 9:42:30 AM

Look at kCTF results.

Look at the CVE database. Most of those UAFs are LPE. Many of the OOBs and many of the race conditions too. These are fixed in Linus' master but you are running an old kernel.

Then look at the KASAN reports on the syzkaller dashboard. Many of them are LPE. Many of the WARNs and crashes are revealing and underlying bugs that is also an LPE. Most of these never get fixed.

Then try pointing your LLM at the codebase and saying "find an LPE". It will find as many as you want (you will exhaust your tokens long before it stops finding bugs). 99.99% of them will be bogus so you need a way to evaluate them at scale, currently this is the weakest approach but we'll get better at it.

I can't actually point you to a list of confirmed LPEs coz the only way they get confirmed is when someone exploits them, but there aren't enough exploit authors to do this for all of them. If inference gets really cheap and someone builds a really good agent harness we might start to see it get automated at some point.

by bjackman

5/1/2026 at 8:39:38 PM

My mind immediately went to chaining this with another recent vulnerability in the Ninja Forms - File Upload plugin [0]

> This makes it possible for unauthenticated attackers to upload arbitrary files on the affected site's server which may make remote code execution possible.

So, upload and execute a script that loads Copy Fail and even if you're only executing as www-data or another restricted user that "can't" sudo -- suddenly, uid=0!

To repeat the refrain... I'm so tired.

[0] https://www.wordfence.com/blog/2026/04/attackers-actively-ex...

by cmg

5/2/2026 at 9:38:58 AM

Yes but what I'm saying is that copy.fail is a minor detail in this scenario.

If you are running Ninja Forums you need to run it in its own VM so that if it gets compromised _you don't care if it has uid=0_.

You need to do that regardless of copy.fail. Now that you've patched copy.fail, there are loads and loads of other vulns that can be used the same way.

by bjackman

5/1/2026 at 10:51:43 AM

In what way is it "not a special bug"? It's a publicly known root access from RCE exploit. Those cannot be a dime a dozen. I'm sure it's especially interesting for any shared hosting services which might be affected, and could be delayed. I could find any places running containered services and exfiltrate secrets parallel services, no?

What constitutes "special" for you, out of curiosity? Something chaining with a hypervisor exploit?

by loufe

5/1/2026 at 1:14:20 PM

It's not RCE it's an LPE in an obscure corner of the kernel attack surface that no sensible application depends on. They are absolutely a dime a dozen.

Even just in AF_ALG there have been several such vulns fixed in 2026 already. Kernel wide probably hundreds. It's true that most of them will be harder to exploit than this one but that just means you need to prompt your AI a bit harder to get an exploit. (To be fair, in a lot of cases it's gonna be hard to escalate privs without crashing the machine).

Ubuntu has userns restrictions now which takes away the main sources of LPEs (random qdiscs, nftables, all that garbage) but there are still huge numbers of these vulns. This is why platforms that do native untrusted code executions have extreme sandboxing. Note Android and ChromeOS aren't affected coz they already knew this code was broken and hide it from unpriv workloads.

You can't run untrusted code on Linux without either a very very carefully designed sandboxing layer (like Android/ChromeOS) or virtualization. copy.fail is just one among tens of thousands of reasons for this, and it's a pretty uninteresting one at that.

What is "special" depends on your usecase but for my job it's mostly about stuff that's exposed to KVM guests. Biggest source of concerning vulns for us is probably vhost. I expect there are also lots of undiscovered and scary vulns in places like virtiofs, vfio, DAX, and wherever we do device passthrough.

> I could find any places running containered services and exfiltrate secrets parallel services, no?

Yes. Regardless of copy.fail. Cloud providers don't do that without a VM layer. (If yours does, you need to switch).

by bjackman

5/1/2026 at 6:23:03 PM

The cope of some people is insane. Why even have UID:GID? All you need is 0:0. I always tell people to run everything as root because there is literally no point.

by eddythompson80

5/2/2026 at 12:43:56 PM

Well, there's still value in users and namespaces! Just, it's not a strong security boundary.

Also even if it's not strong, it doesn't mean it's entirely worthless. You can't rely on it, but it's usually free and it still buys you time / increases attack cost.

Like, if you leave 100k cash in a car on the street in SF, that's dumb. If you really need to do that for some strange reason, you should hire a security guard to watch your car, because cars a not a good security boundary. BUT, that doesn't mean you would leave the car unlocked just coz someone's watching it!

by bjackman

5/1/2026 at 7:17:41 PM

They're not dime a dozen exactly but LPE bugs in Linux (and common Linux distros) are easily common enough that nobody sane relies on user isolation as a serious security boundary.

Clouds use VMs as the security barrier, which is also not always 100% perfect, but is much better.

It could be useful as part of an exploit chain but generally once you've got to local code execution it's not going to be difficult to get further.

A "special" bug would be something that defeats a security barrier that people actually use, e.g. something that works remotely, or as you say - a hypervisor hack.

by IshKebab

5/1/2026 at 8:54:36 AM

s/competitor/intelligence services/

by kubb

5/1/2026 at 11:54:53 AM

+1, it hasnt even been 24 hours and I already see these stupid CyberSec companies trying to squeeze themselves between this.

by ramon156

5/1/2026 at 10:19:15 AM

why a competitor? Criminals, secret services, country adversaries...

by touwer

5/1/2026 at 8:55:21 AM

Seems reasonable to assume it's something to do with the recently publicized exploits. More likely, this could be an extortion attempt by criminals rather than a competitor.

by bouncycastle

5/1/2026 at 11:00:49 PM

It isn’t a competitor it is Iran.

by ls612

5/1/2026 at 9:19:24 AM

This seems to be pretty targeted, and with the services affected like livepatch and such this could indeed be an actor DDoSing to avoid patches rolling out for copy.fail

by corvad

5/1/2026 at 8:59:10 AM

Noticed it because snap didn't work, snap has its own status page just fyi: https://status.snapcraft.io/

by Wxc2jjJmST9XWWL

5/1/2026 at 9:29:30 AM

Frustrating because the Slack snap is broken so every day you have to downgrade it and I guess you can't without connectivity.

This might be the incentive I need to finally purge snap.

by ForHackernews

5/1/2026 at 11:37:49 AM

Snap recently got much more polished.

I used to have to find a script to purge excess old snaps that would fill up my hard drive. Now Ubuntu only keeps two versions of each snap.

I was wondering why the script didn't have to ever clean more than one version, even when I took longer between running updates.

by wafflemaker

5/1/2026 at 9:59:45 AM

Just move to flatpak, much nicer to deal with

by esseph

5/1/2026 at 2:25:39 PM

I got rid of both and my system is much better for it. The only thing I still use that is distributed in such a format is AppImage, and mainly because it has never given me trouble.

by jacquesm

5/1/2026 at 7:43:08 PM

Both fail hard for so many things. If you need any sort of hardware acceleration, just use an rpm/deb.

by eklavya

5/1/2026 at 11:03:43 AM

In my testing I find the exact reverse. I much prefer snap to flatpak.

by lproven

5/1/2026 at 7:46:47 PM

Snap is mostly limited to Ubuntu and has to run as a daemon.

Flatpak gives me cross-platform/cross-distro software directly/certified by the project or company that has additional security sandboxing and doesn't open up potential security issues.

I don't have to wait for a distro package, and yet there are no system integration concerns.

It also works great for atomic distros (SilverBlue, etc)

by esseph

5/2/2026 at 9:37:15 AM

snaps work on anything that has systemd so I don't quite know where you got the idea is that it is mostly limited to ubuntu.

by zyga

5/2/2026 at 6:42:23 PM

IDK just using Linux for like 30 years.

They're the only main distro I know of that uses it at all by default.

Red Hat, Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, Arch, etc. Ubuntu is the only one.

by esseph

5/3/2026 at 11:31:19 AM

> Ubuntu is the only one.

I have to say that I really do not understand the point of comments like this.

The reality of user-facing Linux is this:

Most of it is Android. It sells billions of units per year.

Of the rest, something like 90% is ChromeOS. That recruits 2-3 hundred million new hardware sales a year, which is roughly 10x as many users annually as the entire history of the Linux distro world. ChromeBooks sell more than desktop PCs and more than Macs by value although Macs cost at least 5x as much.

But of the remaining, oh let's be generous and say 10% of Linux users, most is Ubuntu.

Debian-based distros are 2/3 to 3/4 of all traceable measurable Linux usage, and 2/3 of Debian-family use is Ubuntu.

Red Hat and its fantastic valuation is like 1% of the Linux world.

So what you are saying is "only the Linux mainstream uses snap, and all the weird little hacker/hobbyist distros that have like ten users don't use it."

by lproven

5/1/2026 at 7:42:17 PM

Could this DDoS be affecting some components of https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net? I know they're supposed to be down and up again, but I still get errors when I update Ubuntu :(

by SilentM68

5/1/2026 at 3:11:24 PM

It's almost certainly related to preventing the roll out of copy.fail fixes. Someone held the capability in reserve until they had a good reason to use it.

by sidewndr46

5/1/2026 at 10:17:46 AM

We are so broken as society ddos'n ubuntu is now a thing.

by jollymonATX

5/2/2026 at 12:26:26 AM

Anyone from Canonical shared any pcaps of the attack yet? Or perhaps a summary of packet types, sizes, payloads, TCP/IP header characteristics? State table statistics?

by Bender

5/2/2026 at 8:11:05 PM

I’d be surprised if they had this amount of observability info.

by nullpoint420

5/2/2026 at 2:39:13 AM

Explains why I needed to torrent Ubuntu 26.04 today. Even navigating to the alternative/mirror page to grab the torrent file was painful.

by securicat

5/1/2026 at 9:16:14 AM

I like to imagine it's returning a 500 error response asking you to email rhonda@ubuntu.com

by someperson

5/1/2026 at 8:42:50 PM

No mitigation can stop Aisuru. Let's hope it's not that because the only end in sight is them getting bored and moving on to the next victim.

by bastardoperator

5/2/2026 at 8:28:51 PM

Another wave today (5/2/2026), launchpadcontent.net is down...

by drillsteps5

5/1/2026 at 2:01:22 PM

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by ddactic