alt.hn

4/11/2026 at 6:22:01 AM

Tesla's supervised self-driving software gets Dutch okay, first in Europe

 https://www.reuters.com/business/teslas-self-driving-software-gets-dutch-go-ahead-boost-eu-ambitions-2026-04-10/

by nsoonhui

4/11/2026 at 6:43:07 AM

“Supervised self-driving” feels like an oxymoron. It’s either safe enough to be completely autonomous or it’s not. There’s no way a human driver being assisted by self-driving is going to be ready to take over at a moments notice with the same awareness that they would have if they were driving the whole time. This is going to kill people.

by cedws

4/11/2026 at 7:18:00 AM

No, it’s not.

This solution went through millions of kilometres of data and tests.

RDW did a really thorough job since we’re talking about Europe: https://www.rdw.nl/en/news/2026/rdw-explanation-of-european-...

Stop. Spreading. FUD.

by sMarsIntruder

4/11/2026 at 8:34:20 AM

RDW tested it themselves. That isn't real world usage. Real world drivers will not pay the same attention, and they'll do stupid shit like game the driver attention mechanism so they can watch TikTok.

by cedws

4/11/2026 at 8:43:22 AM

This is FUD. Supervised means that the camera watches you in realtime keeping attention.

But I get this type of comments just to go against one person.

by sMarsIntruder

4/11/2026 at 8:50:41 AM

Yes. And people will find a way to game it like they always do.

by cedws

4/11/2026 at 8:09:37 AM

Of course it is not. I also do "supervised self driving". In fact, everybody does it. The fact that Tesla drivers are only now able to do it, tell us something about their driving abilities.

Stop. Spreading. FUD /s

by hulitu

4/11/2026 at 8:42:07 AM

So if you say BS you can just add /s and it’s fine?

by sMarsIntruder

4/11/2026 at 7:16:31 AM

> RDW said the EU sets stricter requirements for safety during vehicle approvals than the U.S. "This means that the FSD Supervised version in the U.S. is NOT comparable to the FSD Supervised version in the EU," it said, without providing further details.

The Netherlands has one of the highest road safety standards in the world. More info on differences between USA and NL on the site of RDW (Dutch)

https://www.rdw.nl/nieuws/2026/toelichting-rdw-op-europese-t...

by TechTechTech

4/11/2026 at 8:10:46 AM

> The Netherlands has one of the highest road safety standards in the world.

But the Dutch are still not able to drive safely on the Autobahn.

by hulitu

4/11/2026 at 10:29:45 AM

I wonder how this will pan out. In the Netherlands roads are mixed with old people walking their dog and children on bicycles going to school. We're not in Phoenix anymore.

by expedition32

4/11/2026 at 6:46:26 AM

No article has mentioned insurance rates. I would not be surprised if this has consequences for that. I'm not saying this as good or bad but as insurers being cautious as the liability question in civil procedures ultimately comes to them.

by consp

4/11/2026 at 6:47:05 AM

Did The Netherlands appease daddy after daddy's weekly threats to leave NATO?

Maybe these approvals should be conditional on daddy not repeatedly disrupting EU energy supplies.

by 10lap

4/11/2026 at 7:22:24 AM

Just plain quid pro quo (corruption). We get a mega factory, Tesla gets our approval.

https://youtu.be/dii5jnZMAHQ

by zerzera

4/11/2026 at 6:49:59 AM

The testing procure has been going on for over two years. Including closed circuit testing.

by consp

4/11/2026 at 8:13:07 AM

> Including closed circuit testing.

Which is irrelevant on real roads.

"Our product works really well in the lab, it's the real environment that causes problems"

by hulitu

4/11/2026 at 7:59:50 AM

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by black_13