alt.hn

3/23/2026 at 8:52:49 AM

Pilot and co-pilot killed after Air Canada jet collision at LaGuardia New York

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/23/air-canada-plane-collides-with-ground-vehicle-at-new-yorks-laguardia-airport-halting-all-flights

by n1b0m

3/23/2026 at 10:50:10 AM

Fortunately, personnel from Morgan & Morgan™, America's largest billboard personal injury law firm, are rushing to the airfield to investigate the accident, take statements and offer their services to the injured to insure that they are properly compensated. "The way we plea, there is no fee."

by pseingatl

3/23/2026 at 9:47:24 AM

I’d hazard a guess that the speed of impact was much more than 24mph, seeing how the nose of the aircraft was obliterated.

by bigfatkitten

3/23/2026 at 11:08:50 AM

Aircraft, remember, are aluminum balloons with wings. Hit something solid, particularly if filled with incompressible fluid, is a bad day. People f*ck up, people die.

by jleyank

3/23/2026 at 3:53:30 PM

i’m at the point where i’m pretty much never going to put my family on a plane unless we have a very urgent reason to visit family overseas or something

by b0rtb0rt

3/23/2026 at 10:35:57 AM

Is it just me or am I noticing more and more aviation accidents in the last 5 or 6 years? More than the 2010s.

by aurareturn

3/23/2026 at 12:30:01 PM

It's definitely a thing. I've been an aviation nerd for years and in the past you'd just have one bizzare event here and there. The last "big" ones were MH370 and MH17, but we've had fatal commerical aviation accidents very frequent of late.

by user_7832

3/23/2026 at 12:59:40 PM

Why do you think that is?

More air traffic? Busier airports? More travelers? More flights in general? Overworked/understaffed positions?

by aurareturn

3/24/2026 at 6:37:52 AM

Disclaimer, I'm absolutely no expert.

IMO is a combination of events. I think Covid stopping all flights for so long caused some permanent loss of institutional system knowledge, and we've never recovered from it since.

On top of that, the US has been having more and more shutdowns - and regardless of whether you like him or not, Trump's been responsible for some of the longest ones.

The impact of extra mental stress on people who're already in one of the most stressful jobs in the world cannot be good in any way I can think of.

I think the fact that we're not seeing so many issues in Germany or Singapore or Dubai makes me suspect that this is a bit more US specific than global. Some issues (eg Covid) are common, but an alert pilots can overcome eg a mistaken ATC. But the more things/conditions that go wrong, the likelier it is that the Swiss cheesehole misses and causes an error.

Richard Cook's How Complex Systems Fail is an interesting read if you're curious for more.

by user_7832

3/23/2026 at 2:03:34 PM

Multiple reasons I can think of:

Air Traffic Control staffing shortages. This has led to long shifts and intensive workloads for controllers, increasing the risk of errors.

Government shutdowns have exacerbated these shortages, causing delays and heightening safety risks as critical personnel, including TSA and safety technicians, were furloughed or worked without pay.

Then there’s the outdated infrastructure. The U.S. National Airspace System relies on aging radar and communication technology.

by n1b0m

3/23/2026 at 3:42:37 PM

According to one narrative, DEI.

by quaddoggy

3/23/2026 at 6:23:44 PM

MH17 was not an accident.

by jacquesm

3/24/2026 at 6:28:09 AM

True, but it was an "Aviation Incident". I'm not sure how much the exact phrasing matters, fortunately even such intentional events are relatively very rare nowadays.

To clarify - I'm not minimising the fucked up nature of the event. I'm just saying it's still thankfully a rare occurrence.

by user_7832

3/23/2026 at 11:05:03 AM

Easily fixed by SpaceXai ground control autonomy.

by __patchbit__

3/23/2026 at 9:59:39 AM

What a terrible tragedy.

by keithfawcett