3/24/2026 at 2:45:19 PM
I don't want to dunk on people who are discovering the charms of retro tech, but as someone who started with film and spent a fair amount of time in the darkroom, I was delighted to discover the hassle-free simplicity and dependability of digital photography, so it is a bit mind-boggling that people want to go back to the old way of doing things for their everyday snaps.It reminds me of people buying vinyl, using VHS filters on social media, etc. I think it's more about signaling some cultural identity than any objective benefits of the "retro" process. It's not like digital cameras make you give up creative control. If you want to limit yourself to 36 unreviewed shots, you can do that with digital too.
That said, I agree with one thing: you shouldn't be paying for an Adobe subscription. Use Darktable, Capture One, or some other equivalent that you're not just renting for life.
by chromacity
3/24/2026 at 2:55:31 PM
There are plenty of people who sincerely enjoy the aspects that make older tech less convenient or practical. Maybe it's an appreciation for the engineering or "comprehensibility," often it's because older tech produces unique outputs that can't be adequately captured by newer technology.Reducing people's interest to "social signalling" comes off as dismissive.
by captainclam
3/24/2026 at 3:18:48 PM
Come on. This article isn't about the joys of doing things the hard way. To quote: "Then, at the start of 2022 I got my first analogue film camera: a Leica M6. (I know... I dived straight in the deep end.) This was my first introduction to how editing could be easier."It isn't easier. Film is pain. Pain can be good, but this is selling a mirage.
by chromacity
3/24/2026 at 3:39:30 PM
Just to be clear, your comment had a general statement about how you perceived the motivations of "people buying vinyl". That's what I was responding to. (People using VHS filters on social media is by definition social signalling so no comment there lol).And I completely agree with your point about touting film as "easier" than digital. That's a stretch.
by captainclam
3/24/2026 at 8:02:20 PM
Hello, original author here. What I meant by “easier”:Consumer film is designed to be developed and scanned/printed by your lab. You then get a finished image.
Most modern interchangeable-lens digital cameras are designed for you to shoot RAW and edit in software like Lightroom.
Because I first started photography around 2010, I was taught at school to take pictures, then edit them on a computer.
Shooting film for the first time was originally about trying something new in a hobby I enjoy. As stated, it removed the need to sit in front of a computer. “Easier”.
I wish I’d stopped shooting RAW sooner. Trying film led to that realisation.
(And I agree film can be a pain. I’ve ruined several rolls through both stupidity and cameras breaking. I still enjoy it.)
by rusticflare
3/25/2026 at 8:42:45 AM
> Most modern interchangeable-lens digital cameras are designed for you to shoot RAWI don't think I agree. The photos straight off my GH4 are perfectly fine as-is, it's quite a bit of work to get the same thing out of Darktable, let alone something better. I do still shoot in RAW, for those 1% where I do want to go in manually. (The GH4 isn't great in low light.)
> I wish I’d stopped shooting RAW sooner. Trying film led to that realisation.
I mean... yeah. But don't blame the camera for your personal habits ;)
by eqvinox
3/24/2026 at 3:20:36 PM
Vinyl (IMO) isn't about it being retro or having "better" sound quality (whatever that means, it's mostly subjective), but about having a collectable, physical item. I think CDs were a step backwards, not because the sound quality was off but because the boxes were smaller and fragile; I've never owned any music CDs.Digital music is neat for listening to music, but it also feels like it lowers the value of it.
by Cthulhu_
3/24/2026 at 3:32:52 PM
Jewel cases may be fragile but LPs are far more vulnerable to damage than CDs are. There are much better ways to hold a CD collection.by dbt00
3/24/2026 at 8:18:16 PM
Like retro PC game collectors, they realpy just want that giant box! Most of their games are probably just ISOs on an SSD.by HerbManic
3/24/2026 at 3:36:42 PM
> I think CDs were a step backwards, not because the sound quality was off but because the boxes were smaller and fragileSmaller, yes, but fragile? Certainly not more fragile than Vinyl.
by Someone
3/24/2026 at 3:52:02 PM
The jewel cases absolutely were more fragile than the cardboard that was typical of vinyl, but vinyl itself is more fragile than CDs, though the failure modes are completely different.by packetlost
3/24/2026 at 4:44:09 PM
The jewel case does have the advantage of being easily replaceable too though - you can transfer album art/booklets and in most cases the result looks the same as the original.With vinyl, album artwork and the case are the same thing and damaging or destroying the case also damages or destroys the album art - you can’t really replace the case without repurchasing the record if the art matters to you.
by giobox
3/24/2026 at 10:17:04 PM
> The jewel cases absolutely were more fragile than the cardboardCD cases more easily break catastrophically but I think that, for most kinds of impacts, CD cases are less easily damaged than vinyl sleeves.
Water damages them less easily, they’re less susceptible to smudges, corners don’t get creased, etc.
by Someone
3/24/2026 at 3:35:44 PM
Most people buying vinyl in 2026 don't own a record player. Because that's not the point.by Bratmon
3/24/2026 at 9:11:52 PM
This probably isn't the point either, but I get an almost perverse level of calm knowing that for my most favourite albums, I own a physical representation of the waveform trapped in a medium.I very rarely listen to them in that form, but I honestly like the idea that in a post-Carrington event, zombie apocalypse or mad-max style future where electricity or electronics become scarce, I can (if desperate enough) listen to them with a nail and a cone.
by BuildTheRobots
3/24/2026 at 3:40:14 PM
I think there's something to be said for _any_ physical media when it comes to audio.I hate opening my phone/laptop to put music on, inadvertently opening HN/lichess, and watching the next few hours vanish in silence.
Also deeper engagement, and a big second hand and artist-driven markets keeping my money out of the hands of NastyCorp.
Vinyl is just the nicest.
by specproc
3/24/2026 at 3:07:42 PM
I use Lightroom 6 that I paid for, it still works and is still useful for my needs.But as said needs are mostly general curve + highlights down + shadows up, it's possible they could simply be a jpeg preset in camera.
This line made me chuckle as well:
> Since I was a teenager I’ve used digital cameras
Digital cameras didn't exist when I was a teenager; and they cost about as much as a car when I was in my twenties. Overall I don't miss film cameras, although the scarcity was interesting. Taking a picture was an actual decision, unlike today.
by bambax
3/24/2026 at 11:58:48 PM
I started out with film and took my camera all over everywhere with me for years. I switched to digital as soon as I could, before it was really even practical, fully embraced it, and ran with it for a long time. But I eventually got bored, and stopped carrying a camera at all for while.Last year, though, I got back into film, and I'm having a ball! The point of the retro process is not that it's better, it's that I'm enjoying the time I spend with it. The constraints are interesting. The technique is challenging. It's not so much about the photos as it is the photography: I enjoy the practice of making images, and dealing with the challenges of vintage equipment is part of the skill I'm practicing.
It doesn't actually matter whether I take any of these photos or not, you know? I'm not a professional; I'm not making unique art, or documenting historic events. I'm doing this because I enjoy watching the light, looking for interesting frames, and trying to capture them. Right now, the most enjoyable equipment for that purpose happens to be an all-mechanical, medium-format film camera.
by marssaxman
3/24/2026 at 3:01:45 PM
It reminds me of people buying vinyl... signaling...It's absolutely partly this.
But, for me today, as a sometimes hobbyist, it's also about the process...
Digital is too good. The cameras are too good. The results are too good. There's no anticipation.
The analog experience is, to be trite, so much more analog. A good vintage film camera (and probably new Leica too) feels so good in the hand. Like a nice watch, it's a piece of mechanical art. It takes time to focus and set exposure. Sometimes is goes horribly wrong, but sometimes whatever went wrong produces an unexpectedly delightful result. There's also something to be said about receiving the negatives and scans weeks or months after shooting the film - the delayed gratification is something that's lacking in today's instant-everything world. Plus, the cost of film and processing makes me slow down a beat and think about what I'm doing - no spray and pray when a roll of Portra 400 + processing is $25 or more.
by alistairSH
3/24/2026 at 3:17:47 PM
It's this, and also simple nostalgia. Getting out my vinyl records reminds me of my teenage and early adult years. Responsibilites were few, life was pretty simple, I could spend hours with them and the only consequence was delayed homework. I was into film photography during that same time, and the occasional urges to take it up again are filled with memories of those days. The reality of what film photography costs now kills that pretty quickly.by SoftTalker
3/24/2026 at 10:35:32 PM
> someone who started with film and spent a fair amount of time in the darkroomThis is a very important part of your message. You did have the opportunity of "being thought by the slow medium" simply by those being the default. Taking the "teachings" of more limiting, analog (in these cases) technologies became part of your process, your underastanding of the core principles, your motivation, your subjects and something deeper about photography.
In a time where basicaly limitless technologies are the default, for generations that were born into a world where decision fatigue is a bigger issue than scarcity artificial limitations are still a great path to learning something meaningful and having fun.
There is zero intrinsic value to taking pictures, listening to or making music or any of the activities that see a revival of their "retro" versions - analog or otherwise.
I was born when digital photography was the default and my first cameras were digital. I have had way more fun taking my <1000 analog photos, have way more connection to them (partly because I physically had to touch those photos developing and retouching them) than my 100k+ digital photos sitting on some zfs pool. Sure, digital photography is more efficient in every way but -eapecially as commercial photography is dying out to AI - if we strip the commercial element of things that humans are doing for shits and giggles - the analog/retro/slow/whatever version of these activities might prove to be better at serving the basic human needs (the shits and the giggles).
by fenykep
3/25/2026 at 1:04:35 AM
>I was delighted to discover the hassle-free simplicity and dependability of digital photography, so it is a bit mind-boggling that people want to go back to the old way of doing things for their everyday snaps.The OP didn't go "the old way". They made it even more about "hassle-free simplicity", with a digital Fuji that shoots great out-of-the-box colors that they don't correct.
That said, the problem with the "hassle-free simplicity and dependability of digital photography" is that it cheapens everything and takes the fun and skill out of it.
by coldtea
3/25/2026 at 4:14:39 AM
> That said, the problem with the "hassle-free simplicity and dependability of digital photography" is that it cheapens everything and takes the fun and skill out of it.Takes the skill out? Kind of. Accessible cameras make it easy for people to take acceptable photographs. Most people cannot take a great photograph with any camera.
I do think accessible cameras have made it harder for mediocre photographers to pass as good. The days when simply carrying an SLR gave an aura of competence are gone. Democratization of quality cameras closed the hardware gap for a lot of photography.
by dpark
3/24/2026 at 3:07:02 PM
I am not a professional. But I had done some film photography in its last days. The photos that I took during the time, just casually, tops any photo that I take now a days with by DSLR.It is not in raw "quality". But what are we trying to capture when we take a picture? Is it raw pixels? or is it some emotion that we originally got when we were looking at something.
For some reason, I think film captures and regenerate that emotion when you look at the photograph in a way that a digital capture cannot.
I cannot explain it, but the the closest thing that I have found that could explain it is..It is in the context of b/w but I think the same applies to color as well..
https://leicaphilia.com/the-difference-between-black-and-whi...
by qsera
3/24/2026 at 3:17:03 PM
That emotion is nostalgia, whether real or perceived. It's not a bad thing, some of my favorite photos are on b&w film. Film has a texture and (inaccurate) colors/tones that aren't really reproduced in digital cameras but are all over the place in media we consume and personal/family photos, usually from an older time.by packetlost
3/25/2026 at 7:58:00 AM
It is not nostalgia. It was the photo of a stray dog on a beach, and a bunch of fishermen drawing in a big fishing net..so nothing personal or long lost to be nostalgic about...by qsera
3/24/2026 at 3:55:45 PM
> That emotion is nostalgia, whether real or perceived.Absolutely. One of my prized possessions is a book I had made from digital pictures I took on a family trip when my kids were 3 & 4 years old. The pictures are of single-digit megapixel quality, but are perfect for what they needed to be: a reminder of that trip, and the memories contained within.
It seems to me that the slightly fuzzy aspect of old pictures better matches our fuzzy memories of that time.
by 98codes
3/24/2026 at 3:38:01 PM
Have you tried putting your digital photos through a film simulation software such as Dehancer?by hootz
3/25/2026 at 7:59:22 AM
I think so, but the results does not appear same. Did you get a chance to read the post I shared in my comment. It explains why this could not give the same results.by qsera
3/24/2026 at 4:29:39 PM
This is like looking at old b/w photos of people for example. This feels like art. Brings memories and has zero relation to a physical quality of material.by FpUser
3/24/2026 at 10:20:23 PM
On the point of film, I agree, although I won't say it's necessarily a bad thing overall. Just a bit silly when people try to claim film is somehow "superior" or whatever.Film is absolutely a cultural experience for many people shooting it today. The main argument I have to confirm this is to consider that most people's photos are not good, to start with. (Talking about the average joe, not pro photographers.) So any comment about film's technical capabilities is moot. You can take bad photos on film or digital. Also you can take good photos on film or digital! Unless you're really doing some good experimental photography, you gotta admit that the film motivation is vibes.
Also on editing applications, Lightroom does have pretty good all round features , which is hard to find elsewhere. For example Darktable technically works, but the UI is poor, the performance is poor, and it's generally slower to achieve the same results. If someone wants to make an open source Lightroom clone, I'll be all for it!
by mcdeltat
3/24/2026 at 2:54:24 PM
> I think it's more about signaling some cultural identity than any objective benefits of the "retro" process.I think it could be that, or simply that people want to try a different experience. Digital photography started out as the easier, faster, and cheaper option, but the experience of using it and even the culture around photography itself has changed over time. Going back to the roots once in a while can feel refreshing. And paying for a monthly subscription is probably overkill for most casual photographers.
by tartoran
3/24/2026 at 3:54:35 PM
> And paying for a monthly subscription is probably overkill for most casual photographers.But film (the actual roll + development + scan) is very expensive, at least in my parts. Sure, you may mean "casual" as in "maybe shoots a roll a film a year", in which case I guess it's quite cheaper than an Adobe LR subscription. But if you shoot a roll a month or more? Then Adobe wins hands down (I'm talking the photography plan here, not the whole thing).
The cheapest stock I could find is a C-41 negative, b&w Agfa APX 400 iso, 36 pictures for 7.90 €. Color C-41 starts at 11 € with a 24 picture Kodak Ultra Max, bought as a set of 3 rolls. Developing and scanning costs 12 € for 2000x3000 px or 20 € for 4500x6700 px. That's 19.90 €, or the price of the base Adobe Photography plan.
by vladvasiliu
3/24/2026 at 7:19:09 PM
Yes, financially doesn't make much sense to go from digital to film. Film costs, absolutely. But you end up shooting less, thinking more, waiting for the right shot and so on. You also move sliders/tweak less and mistakes teach you lessons that you quickly learn from. Sometimes there are happy accidents as well. Taking a shot becomes a deliberate action since you don't have unlimited frames. It's a different experience. Yes, the Adobe light room seems cheap in comparison to film but, that's the wrong comparison IMO. There are other tools out there that are much cheaper than Adobe's offerings if not completely free. Digital has made photography available to the masses, everybody's got a camera nowadays. However, it did kill something and what it killed is what these folk are looking for (that something that got lost in the process).I'm not into photography anymore and will stick to cheap digital photography for convenience (smart phone) but I could see how this works out for these folks and I believe it's not just a fad or signaling. Similarly, for music, analog instruments could be replicated and enhanced digitally/electronically and yet they're what you're after sometimes.
by tartoran
3/24/2026 at 9:09:27 PM
> Taking a shot becomes a deliberate action since you don't have unlimited frames. It's a different experience.It’s a very different experience. Whether you enjoy that depends a lot on why you are engaging in photography. Do you prize the ritual, the act of taking photographs in the moment? Then you might love film. Might also love working in a dark room and doing your own development and prints.
Personally I don’t care about any of that. I care about the resulting photo. I’ll take upwards of 800 photos when I’m shooting one of my kids’ soccer games. I’ll get 100 photos max that are worth keeping, and a much smaller number I’m really happy with. Some will miss focus. Some will miss the moment. But I’ll have a few great photos for the trouble.
There’s nothing wrong with enjoying the ritual. Also nothing wrong with just enjoying the product.
by dpark
3/24/2026 at 10:34:08 PM
I used to do that when I was a teenager and it was truly wonderful. I had my own darkroom and was even developing my own film (BW only). As tech evolved I moved on to digital but took so many photos that somehow I stopped caring about photographs at all. It even became a bit overwhelming to look at photos and to some extent it still is to this day. I took on many other hobbies so it's not a huge loss for me. But I can totally get why some folks would get back to film from digital, they're going for the experience and not the end result as photos, which I agree would be more efficient to process digitally. But same goes with other arts. Why are people still painting? All can be done digitally in Krita or some other software and a lot more efficiently and faster and so on. And yet people pay money for canvases, oil paints, brushes, and spend hours and hours painting.by tartoran
3/24/2026 at 11:22:33 PM
For sure. I’m not dismissing others who want that experience. It’s just not my focus when I’m taking pictures.I do agree that going through hundreds of photos is not a process I enjoy. I’ve been trying to train myself to weed out more efficiently. The newer AI tools help some, though I still go through the AI rejects to make sure it didn’t cull something I would keep.
by dpark
3/24/2026 at 2:57:36 PM
> If you want to limit yourself to 36 unreviewed shots, you can do that with digital too.I’m not sure that’s true. At least, not nearly as hard-constrained as with film.
I agree with your broader point, but let’s be completely honest. Digital is not a free lunch. You do lose something somewhere.
The medium you use “leaks” deeply into the whole experience of life (be it a vacation trip or something else). So all of this is a big deal.
by whiplash451
3/24/2026 at 7:43:34 PM
>> > If you want to limit yourself to 36 unreviewed shots, you can do that with digital too.> I’m not sure that’s true. At least, not nearly as hard-constrained as with film.
Just grab your camera of choice, look at the average file size, multiply it by 36, and format a partition on your memory card of that size. Bonus points if your camera uses adaptive compression, so maybe you'll get a bit fewer or a bit more photos per card depending on what you shot! Isn't that even more interesting than film? You know exactly how many exposures you get up front with a roll, now you'll have to wait and find out!
> Digital is not a free lunch. You do lose something somewhere.
Right. But I bet that, just like the OP, most people will outsource development and scanning of their film rolls, meaning they don't control the process. That's just digital with extra steps.
by vladvasiliu
3/24/2026 at 2:52:22 PM
For me, trying film after growing up in the post-digital world was more about exploring the experience of the medium and why we ended up where we are. It's given me an appreciation for why slowing down with your subject can increase "keepers".by asow92
3/24/2026 at 3:03:44 PM
Personally, I’ve spent a lot of time on both film and digital and currently I’m a lot happier with the results of my film work. Is it a combination of the camera, lens, medium, and process? I’m sure it is. Could I get similar artifacts out of digital? Probably but the key difference is that I don’t and the medium for me doesn’t make me want to. In the end creative work like photography has as many manifestations as people and your comment reads as rather dismissive than curious.by spinningarrow
3/25/2026 at 1:49:43 AM
I'm just waiting for daguerreotypes to come back into fashion.by jhbadger
3/24/2026 at 8:24:58 PM
I started on 35mm and dark rooms then went to digital. 35mm is more fun and more rewarding.by htx80nerd
3/24/2026 at 3:37:49 PM
Can’t forget the cost of all that film. That’ll easily outpace the Lightroom sub.by bix6
3/24/2026 at 11:42:24 PM
vinyls have secret songs on them ;)by jareklupinski
3/24/2026 at 5:04:40 PM
Film gets better results with less effort - but more money.by te_chris
3/24/2026 at 4:27:43 PM
>"It reminds me of people buying vinyl"Myself - I do not use vinyl but being close to start using it again. Not like every day but when in a mood. The whole process is like coming back to a better and forgotten times. Definitely touches some strings.
by FpUser