alt.hn

3/19/2026 at 1:42:14 PM

I turned Markdown into a protocol for generative UI

 https://fabian-kuebler.com/posts/markdown-agentic-ui/

by FabianCarbonara

3/19/2026 at 5:40:11 PM

If you're still looking for a name let me suggest "hyper text".

It embodies the whole idea of having data, code and presentation at the same place.

If you're open for contributions I already have an idea for cascading styles system in mind.

by zeroq

3/20/2026 at 3:57:03 PM

> If you're still looking for a name let me suggest "hyper text".

Perhaps "WWW SPA document"? Using markdown with highly-progressive fenced blocks?

Hypertext (one word, coined 1960s) is quite a broad category. Subcategory "WWW" could fit, as TFA seems WWW-ish. A markdown document format, and progressive rendering of tags and code, seems HTML-like. Though with greater progressiveness - code blocks with streamed execution rather than merely compilation. The progressive JSON callbacks, React, integrated client and server code execution, and server-side rendering, seem closer to WWW SPA than to HTML. Though SPA files often seem more "source" than "document". And the multiple-page "App"-ness of SPA doesn't fit well. SPA seems a better fit than "full-stack". Perhaps some name analogous to "isomorphic javascript"...?

by mncharity

3/20/2026 at 7:00:50 PM

Or more precisely, isn't this reinventing notebooks (not the first JS-centric notebook either)?

by gwern

3/19/2026 at 5:54:48 PM

Every turn of the wheel someone wants to make a new one.

Maybe one day someone will invent a rounder wheel.

by altruios

3/19/2026 at 7:26:53 PM

Personally I think we should move to heptagons, they're round enough.

The wheel is what I would call, passé.

by doublerabbit

3/20/2026 at 1:09:33 AM

I disagree. Hexagons are the bestagons.

by smnrchrds

3/20/2026 at 5:16:46 PM

What is a hexagon if not 4 triangles in a trenchcoat?

by Akronymus

3/19/2026 at 11:28:20 PM

nah heptagons are passé; nowadays it’s all about nonagons. xD

by keeganpoppen

3/19/2026 at 8:22:48 PM

Every day the wheel of society turns a little further off course.

Soon we'll be optimizing for minimizing the sides of a wheel (triangles are not the final form here...) /s

by altruios

3/20/2026 at 2:48:57 AM

In this timeline I suggest favouring a style semantics and specification language.

[given what CSS has incrementally and inevitably become, it's my ever-firmer belief that DSSSL would've been the right choice in the first place]

by inopinatus

3/19/2026 at 7:18:44 PM

If HTML happened again except this time it was markdown, maybe more non-nerds would be able to use it? XML just looks gnarly.

by noman-land

3/19/2026 at 11:39:52 PM

Problem with the markdown approach the text will become rapidly ugly with hacks, non-standard annotations to enable same features as HTML.

by NL807

3/20/2026 at 3:06:07 PM

I'm very curious. I hated how html requires angled brackets for everything and love markdown for its neatness.

What are some of the ugly hacks you've seen that were applied?

by fyredge

3/19/2026 at 6:29:58 PM

Ha, history does rhyme ;) Happy if you reach out via mail!

by FabianCarbonara

3/19/2026 at 7:09:30 PM

I think he's talking about CSS

by heckintime

3/19/2026 at 10:31:23 PM

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by 0ing0b0ing0

3/19/2026 at 7:50:20 PM

Very cool. I'm imagining using this with Claude Code, allowing it to wire this up to MCP or to CLI commands somehow and using that whole system as an interactive dashboard for administering a kubernetes cluster or something like that - and the hypothetical first feature request is to be able to "freeze" one of these UI snippets and save it as some sort of a "view" that I can access later. Use case: it happens to build a particularly convenient way to do a bunch of calls to kubectl, parse results and present them in some interactive way - and I'd like to reuse that same widget later without explaining/iterating on it again.

by pbkhrv

3/19/2026 at 7:55:22 PM

Exactly this!

Right now this uses React for Web but could also see it in the terminal via Ink.

And I love the "freeze" idea — maybe then you could even share the mini app.

by FabianCarbonara

3/20/2026 at 5:07:23 AM

Did you see that Claude Code just came out with "channels" that allows for messages to be injected into the session/sent out by claude via hooks and MCP server [1]? I had CC code an integration between fenced and CC using channels and it actually worked - a little clunky since there is no streaming, but very interesting nevertheless.

[1] https://code.claude.com/docs/en/channels-reference

by pbkhrv

3/20/2026 at 5:53:54 AM

Whoa, I hadn't seen channels yet — and you already got fenced working with Claude Code?! That's awesome. Would love to see what you built!

by FabianCarbonara

3/19/2026 at 7:41:41 PM

I quite like this! I've been incrementally building similar tooling for a project I've been working on, and I really appreciate the ideas here.

I think the key decision for someone implementing a flexible UI system like this is the required level of expressiveness. To me, the chief problem with having agents build custom html pages (as another comment suggested) is far too unconstrained. I've been working with a system of pre-registered blocks and callbacks that are very constrained. I quite like this as a middleground, though it may still be too dynamic for my use case. Will explore a bit more!

by joelres

3/19/2026 at 7:50:57 PM

Thanks! Really interesting to hear you're working on something similar.

You're right that the level of expressiveness is the key design decision. There's a real spectrum:

- pre-registered blocks (safe, predictable)

- code execution with a component library (middle ground)

- full arbitrary code (maximum flexibility).

My approach can slide along that spectrum: you could constrain the agent to only use a specific set of pre-imported components rather than writing arbitrary JSX. The mount() primitive and data flow patterns still work the same way, you just limit what the LLM is allowed to render.

Would love to hear what you learn if you explore it!

by FabianCarbonara

3/19/2026 at 7:57:09 PM

Will do! I'm using a JSON DSL currently, I wonder if there's a best choice for format that is both at the correct level of expressiveness and also easy enough for the LLM to generate in a valid way. I do think markdown has advantage of being very trivial for LLMs, but my current JSON blocks strategy might be better for more complex data.... will play around.

by joelres

3/20/2026 at 3:23:22 PM

That‘a fascinating take on the UI problem. I find myself less and less coding cause there is no real easy way to build simple UI nowerdays. Languages like go and rust gloss over the UI question and offer no real easy way. Web frameworks take the roll of a emergency UI. I most of the time still use windows.forms for fast easy statefull ui forms

by Surac

3/19/2026 at 8:04:29 PM

The streamed execution idea is novel to me. Not sure what’s it significance ?

I have been working on something with a similar goal:

https://github.com/livetemplate/tinkerdown

by realrocker

3/19/2026 at 10:22:43 PM

Add a video or a live demo, there's still too much friction on this readme.

Always Show then Ask.

by kristopolous

3/19/2026 at 10:31:19 PM

and I meant to say: tinkerdown looks pretty cool!

by FabianCarbonara

3/19/2026 at 8:11:43 PM

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by FabianCarbonara

3/19/2026 at 7:08:03 PM

The nice thing about standards is that you have so many to choose from

by tantalor

3/19/2026 at 8:42:32 PM

I will say I came upon this same design pattern to make all my chats into semantic Markdown that is backward compatible with markdown. I did:

````assistant

<Short Summary title>

gemini/3.1-pro - 20260319T050611Z

Response from the assistant

````

with a similar block for tool calling This can be parsed semantically as part of the conversation but also is rendered as regular Markdown code block when needed

Helps me keep AI chats on the filesystem, as a valid document, but also add some more semantic meaning atop of Markdown

by z3ugma

3/20/2026 at 4:37:43 PM

> AI chats as a valid document

So many formats, with different tradeoffs around readable/parsable/comments/etc. I wish there was a "universal" converter. With LLM's sometimes used to edit chat traces, I'd like ingestion from md/yaml, not merely a "render from message json".

So .json `[{"role": "user", "content": "Hi"}` <-> .md ` ```json\n[{"role": "user", "content": "Hi"}` <-> above ` ```user\nHi` <-> `# User\nHi` <-> ` ```chatML\n<|user|>\nHi` <-> .html rendered .md, but with elements like <think> and <file> escaped... etc.

by mncharity

3/20/2026 at 6:07:52 PM

Do you know the meme about carcinization ...how in nature, everything tends toward becoming a crab?

I think we are reinventing HTML from first principles. It's semantic structuring with a meaningful render

by z3ugma

3/19/2026 at 5:38:45 PM

There seems to be a lot of movement in this direction, how do you feel about Markdown UI?

https://markdown-ui.com/

by eightysixfour

3/19/2026 at 6:07:25 PM

Markdown UI and my approach share the "markdown as the medium" insight, but they're fundamentally different bets:

Markdown UI is declarative — you embed predefined widget types in markdown. The LLM picks from a catalog. It's clean and safe, but limited to what the catalog supports.

My approach is code-based — the LLM writes executable TypeScript in markdown code fences, which runs on the server and can render any React UI. It also has server-side state, so the UI can do forms, callbacks, and streaming data — not just display widgets.

by FabianCarbonara

3/19/2026 at 5:55:06 PM

I'd much prefer MDX.

by threatofrain

3/19/2026 at 6:11:07 PM

OpenUI and JSON-render are some other players in this space.

I’m building an agentic commerce chat that uses MCP-UI and want to start using these new implementations instead of MCP-UI but can’t wrap my head around how button on click and actions work? MCP-UI allows onClick events to work since you’re “hard coding” the UI from the get-go vs relying on AI generating undertemistic JSON and turning that into UI that might be different on every use.

by theturtletalks

3/19/2026 at 6:16:56 PM

In my approach, callbacks are first-class. The agent defines server-side functions and passes them to the UI:

  const onRefresh = async () => {
    data.loading = true;
    data.messages = await loadMessages();
    data.loading = false;
  };

  mount({
    data,
    callbacks: { onRefresh },
    ui: ({ data, callbacks }) => (
      <Button onClick={callbacks.onRefresh}>Refresh</Button>
    )
  });
When the user clicks the button, it invokes the server-side function. The callback fetches fresh data, updates state via reactive proxies, and the UI reflects it — all without triggering a new LLM turn.

So the UI is generated dynamically by the LLM, but the interactions are real server-side code, not just display. Forms work the same way — "await form.result" pauses execution until the user submits.

The article has a full walkthrough of the four data flow patterns (forms, live updates, streaming data, callbacks) with demos.

by FabianCarbonara

3/20/2026 at 12:16:05 AM

https://a2ui.org/

by appveyor

3/20/2026 at 5:57:29 AM

A2UI is Google's take — declarative JSON, tool-calling based, predefined component catalog. Clean and safe but constrained.

My approach is the opposite bet: full code execution instead of tool calls. The agent can build any React UI from scratch with the full power of code — including client-server data flow, callbacks, streaming data.

by FabianCarbonara

3/19/2026 at 7:44:41 PM

In an agentic loop, the model can keep calling multiple tools for each specialized artifact (like how claude webapp renders HTML/SVG artifacts within a single turn). Models are already trained for this (tested this approach with qwen 3.5 27B and it was able to follow claude's lead from the previous turns).

by smahs

3/19/2026 at 8:01:40 PM

I see potential to take over Notion's / Obsidian's business here. Imagine highly customizable notebooks people can generate on the fly with the right kind of UI they need. Compared to fixed blocks in Notion

by Lws803

3/19/2026 at 8:56:20 PM

That’s what I’m building, along with the invisible unified data model underneath, that is needed to tie everything together. Always glad for feedback, reach out in my profile if it sounds interesting!

by rthrfrd

3/20/2026 at 12:25:15 AM

Brainstorming, perhaps `<<named-block-code-transclusion>>`? It goes against the grain of "eval() line-by-line", even if it's handled ASAP. But it might relax the order constraint on codegen. Especially if the UI gets complex, or rendered on a "pane off to the side".

by mncharity

3/20/2026 at 11:57:13 AM

Oops - that's not transclusion. Merely literate programming tangles.

by mncharity

3/20/2026 at 5:51:05 AM

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by FabianCarbonara

3/20/2026 at 9:39:29 AM

Interesting food for thought for the HITL.

by itmitica

3/19/2026 at 6:00:55 PM

There’s definitely a lot of merit to this idea, and the gifs in the article look impressive. My strong opinion is that there’s a lot more to (good) UIs than what an LLM will ever be able to bring (happy to be proven wrong in a few years…), but for utilitarian and on-the-fly UIs there’s definitely a lot of promise

by iusethemouse

3/19/2026 at 6:26:46 PM

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by FabianCarbonara

3/19/2026 at 7:47:39 PM

The bots that read the instruction and yet add the emoji to the _beginning_ of the PR title though. Even bigger red flag I guess?

by 4ndrewl

3/19/2026 at 9:09:32 PM

Why not MDX?

by nthypes

3/19/2026 at 10:02:17 PM

The goal isn't really a better markdown format — it's bringing code execution and generative UI together. The code fences run on the server: calling APIs, processing data, doing agentic work. And they can also mount reactive UIs with full data flow between client, server, and LLM.

MDX is a compile-time format for static content. This is a runtime protocol where the LLM writes code that executes as it streams, and the UIs it creates stay connected to the server.

by FabianCarbonara

3/19/2026 at 7:51:25 PM

would be nice if it wasnt just ui but other form like voice narration, sounds ect

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3/19/2026 at 8:30:05 PM

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3/19/2026 at 9:49:49 PM

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3/20/2026 at 1:09:36 AM

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3/20/2026 at 1:12:40 AM

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3/19/2026 at 8:40:25 PM

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3/19/2026 at 6:57:28 PM

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by wangmander

3/19/2026 at 7:07:05 PM

What's the going rate these days for decade-old HN accounts to repurpose as AI spambots?

by Retr0id

3/19/2026 at 8:06:19 PM

I don’t know, but feel free to send me an offer.

by pohl