alt.hn

3/9/2026 at 7:39:03 PM

60 Minutes Havana Syndrome report finds U.S. government tested energy weapon

 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-havana-syndrome-report-finds-u-s-government-tested-energy-weapon/

by jonas21

3/9/2026 at 8:24:21 PM

For the benefit of people who read only the headline and not the article:

The story here is that the US government captured Russia's energy weapon, which Russia has been using against US personnel for a decade, and tested it to determine what it does (it causes brain damage). This story does _not_ claim that the US has developed a weapon like this themselves.

by jimrandomh

3/9/2026 at 9:02:10 PM

It does claim the US went to great lengths to dismiss the victims for a decade, while being in possession of the device. That raises the question of what incentives the US would have to deny its existence. To me, that was the story.

by joshribakoff

3/9/2026 at 11:25:05 PM

The effects aren't too far off from reports of the maduro raid, though my understanding is that the US just used a standard LRAD

by jd3

3/9/2026 at 7:48:17 PM

The schizophrenics are getting more reasonable by the day. They ARE listening through your phone. There might actually be a government vehicle following you without identification with intent to abduct (ICE), and now they might actually be tormenting you with invisible energy beams.

by tencentshill

3/9/2026 at 8:39:38 PM

A common hallucination and delusion is that someone is beaming thoughts into the afflicted's head, causing some to believe that there are "voice to skull" devices deployed to torment them.

Well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect

by heavyset_go

3/10/2026 at 12:05:02 AM

If its a CIA related conspiracy its easier to believe than not to. That agency has always managed to be up to no good.

by mhitza

3/9/2026 at 8:02:42 PM

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by marysminefnuf

3/9/2026 at 9:12:21 PM

I spent a lot of time (as a former lit PhD student with an interest in narrative and identity) paying attention to the Q-related (and adjacent) stories.

On one hand, once folks are freed from orthodox thought, they might point out some very useful and interesting ideas about the world.

On the other hand, (assuming I just haven't figure out how to observe astral-projecting bodies, lumerians, the long-term benefits of consuming adrenochrome and gross manipulation of the electoral system) there are some significant differences between what the actual claims made by the Q-folk and what the actual documentation brings out.

Importantly, the Q folks have been horrifically wrong about a number of things as well. It wasn't hard to sort out the (usually fairly pedestrian) truths, and people were doing that work even when Q was in its heyday. Remember that the reality (as I understand it) that wealthy men do abusive things doesn't need a secret satanic cabal to explain it.

To claim the q folks were right is roughly (in my understanding) equivalent to claiming that the batshit crazy experiments done under programs like Midnight Climax actually led to "mind control" in the fine grained way that the folks paying for those programs speculated to be possible- that shit was dumb and anyone who has some moderate experience with psychedelics and any amount of maturity should be able to clock that without repeating the "experiments".

by scarecrowbob

3/10/2026 at 12:11:24 AM

I was being sarcastic but i get your point. The trump admin is full of pedophiles but for years and years they were claiming they were going to unmask the “real” pedophiles. I meant that like qanon was talking about a massive conspiracy where pedophiles were running the gov. They are now though lol

by marysminefnuf

3/9/2026 at 9:23:08 PM

Is there any actual evidence for this?

by DoesntMatter22

3/9/2026 at 9:37:51 PM

Have you read any of Epstein files, or any reporting about them?

Serious question - you need to give us where you currently are if you want a productive conversation.

by ekjhgkejhgk

3/9/2026 at 10:44:33 PM

The parts that are not hearsay from anonymous sources, which basically means any paranoid story that the FBI still has to document, or blackmailers and grifters with plenty of holes and inconsistencies to their stories, are about about elites partying with 17 and above year olds who where otherwise active already in related "work". Still shady, but hardly what's being reported in the sensationalist coverage, which ranges from abductions and rings to acid baths for murdered victims.

https://www.mtracey.net/p/we-need-to-talk-about-virginia

https://www.mtracey.net/p/epstein-survivors-refusing-questio...

https://www.mtracey.net/p/i-found-the-real-epstein-coverup

by coldtea

3/9/2026 at 11:45:43 PM

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by dttze

3/9/2026 at 10:47:59 PM

It would seem the best place to hide a real conspiracy is underneath a fake one.

by pixelready

3/9/2026 at 10:13:45 PM

I've read reports about Havana Syndrome before and remain thoroughly unconvinced. The locations vary wildly, the symptoms vary wildly and can be explained by normal medical phenomena in a way Occam would find more agreeable.

Look at their 'smoking gun' evidence here:

>He tracked down an email, what he considers a receipt, for services provided to the Russian government by a member of Unit 29155 for "potential capabilities of non-lethal acoustic weapons."

Acoustic crowd control weapons are not mysterious, there are people on YouTube building and testing them! American companies will sell them to any oppressive government around the world (I believe the ones used against Serbian protestors were American). Yet this description contradicts speculation about microwaves just a bit further down in the article.

by rozab

3/9/2026 at 10:42:58 PM

Yup. There's no hard evidence and so it still comes off as mass psychosis / psychosomatic / placebo effect with wildly-varying "symptoms". Surely, there would be some sizable "weapon" consuming massive amounts of energy nearby that would be visible and captured on video if it were true.

by burnt-resistor

3/9/2026 at 10:46:00 PM

article explains that it is not sizable

by sjkoelle