alt.hn

3/9/2026 at 12:23:47 AM

U.S. military tested device that may be tied to Havana Syndrome on rats, sheep

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-military-tested-device-that-may-be-tied-to-havana-syndrome-60-minutes-transcript/

by diogenes_atx

3/9/2026 at 1:11:37 AM

The idea of microwaving rats (and sheep) makes me sick.

by neom

3/9/2026 at 1:44:42 AM

Sometimes you just need to reheat mutton in a hurry.

by clipsy

3/9/2026 at 12:57:07 AM

For me, this is the smoking gun:

> Our confidential sources tell us the still classified weapon has been tested in a U.S. military lab for more than a year. Tests on rats and sheep show injuries consistent with those seen in humans. Also, as a separate part of the investigation, security camera videos have been collected that show Americans being hit. The videos are classified but they were described to us. In one, a camera in a restaurant in Istanbul captured two FBI agents on vacation sitting at a table with their families. A man with a backpack walks in and suddenly everyone at the table grabs their head as if in pain. Our sources say another video comes from a stairwell in the U.S. embassy in Vienna. The stairs lead to a secure facility. In the video, two people on the stairs suddenly collapse.

by Invictus0

3/9/2026 at 3:55:15 AM

>a camera in a restaurant in Istanbul captured two FBI agents on vacation sitting at a table with their families. A man with a backpack walks in and suddenly everyone at the table grabs their head as if in pain

So, the man was inconspicuously targeting a specific area in a public space without affecting himself and everyone else, using a device in a backpack? This just sounds... technically implausible.

by orbital-decay

3/9/2026 at 1:28:36 PM

Microwaves are very directional. What about it sounds implausible?

by sippeangelo

3/9/2026 at 3:34:51 PM

Microwaves are not directional, antennas are. They all have side and backlobes that would affect the carrier. To get something like this done, you have to:

- get enough backlobe attenuation to not affect yourself, but enough power and directionality to be useful against the target, also the beam should not be reflected by walls

- aim and activate it without anyone noticing (presumably by turning your back to the target), ensuring there's nobody else in the way

- the beam has to be wide enough to affect every target but narrow enough to not affect other people. This is a restaurant.

- presumably stay still long enough, because if this microwave magic works by mimicking brainwaves (if it does at all! biggest question), it should have relatively low modulation frequency.

All of this without raising suspicion. This needs James Bond levels of coordination and alignment of unknowns. Knowing how incompetent FSB/GRU and co are, I have a really hard time believing all this.

by orbital-decay

3/9/2026 at 3:09:40 PM

microwaves can be very very directional and operate from vast distances.

by iberator

3/9/2026 at 12:45:20 AM

For those unfamiliar - the U.S. gov't has a centuries-long history of callous disregard for the lives and welfare of Americans who were faithfully serving their country. Not saying they are much different from other org's that way - but definitely keep it in mind, if you're feeling any patriotic urges.

With the number of Havana Syndrome incidents, and the relatively high profiles of the targets, you'd think that somebody would have developed miniaturized passive sensors (for microwave, sonic, etc. bursts) and started distributing those. Seems worth looking into, if you suspect you or someone you care about might become a target.

by bell-cot

3/9/2026 at 9:57:45 AM

What a nothing burger, next they'll say say it was given to them by aliens? Illegal aliens that ICE has deported that is.

by type0

3/9/2026 at 1:57:54 AM

Hey, the link leads to a summary of a 60 Minutes segment.

We know that CBS News Editor-in-chief Bari Weiss has spiked at least one major 60 Minutes story that was unfavorable for Trump. Why did Ms Weiss let this one through? Given her history and predilections, we can surmise that she thinks this story is good for Trump, or at least bad for his enemies. Looks like 60 Minutes bills it as a "massive CIA cover-up". Trump must be hunting for CIA heads for some reason. Has Iran War intelligence been particularly useless or something?

by bediger4000