3/6/2026 at 10:12:27 PM
> With his new toy having a leverage ratio north of 6x, David Ellison has promised $6 billion in “synergies” within three years. (Netflix Co-CEO Ted Sarandos put the figure closer to $16 billion, after examining WBD’s books.What is it that these CEOs think they are seeing, that everyone else is missing? I can believe they have inflated egos, but they’re not totally crazy, right? My impression is that Netflix is fairly sober and results oriented, so I’m confused by the whole thing.
by pinkmuffinere
3/6/2026 at 10:32:49 PM
They're buying control of narrative on issues they care about; the history of media is mostly that. Newspapers were kind of invented for that reason. Our ideas of ethics in journalism are fairly modern.by bluegatty
3/6/2026 at 11:12:27 PM
Indeed Edgar Allan Poe had a thing or two to say about newspapers. https://poestories.com/quotes.php (and scroll down a bit).> “We should bear in mind that, in general, it is the object of our newspapers rather to create a sensation — to make a point — than to further the cause of truth.”
by butterisgood
3/7/2026 at 1:44:37 AM
We as citizens are supposed to keep ourselves informed and vote on things. Very few of us can fly all over the world to see things with our own two eyes so we have to outsource this fact finding. Priests, journalists, the goddamn CIA- they all have agendas.by PearlRiver
3/6/2026 at 10:48:09 PM
Rich people don't buy media companies because this is the best business in the world. Quite the opposite, most media companies are mediocre or lose money. They do this because of the political clout they get with the control of these media properties.by coliveira
3/6/2026 at 11:05:36 PM
> They do this because of the political clout they get with the control of these media propertiesBezos bought the Post for clout. Ellison (and his investors) are buying Warner Brothers first and foremost to make money.
by JumpCrisscross
3/7/2026 at 4:01:17 AM
As the article shows, the most probable result of buying Warner Bros will be another loss. Which won't stop more people from buying it again later.by coliveira
3/7/2026 at 6:36:54 PM
> the most probable result of buying Warner Bros will be another lossSure. The same goes for most bunker-buster LBOs. Doesn’t mean the sponsors are doing it with the expectation of losing money.
by JumpCrisscross
3/7/2026 at 1:19:15 AM
[dead]by onetokeoverthe
3/6/2026 at 10:26:50 PM
Succession planning.This appears to be Larry Ellison trying to manage succession for his kids. We'll probably see a second major acquisition like this for Megan (who tends to be more progressive leaning) [edit: I was right. Megan Ellison is making moves as well now [0]]
Larry would not be able to do something similar at Oracle today (definitely in the 2000s though), as by the 2010s operational control at Oracle increasingly shifted to operators like Catz, Hurd, and Kurian. It also would have led to bad blood à la the Murdochs.
One heir cultivating the right wing (David) and the other heir cultivating the progressive wing (Megan) buys a level of political impunity for the next generation that is hard to come by.
[0] - https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/megan-el...
by alephnerd
3/7/2026 at 2:18:39 PM
You're consistently the only person that I see writing anything of sense on this platform -- are you on any others?by financltravsty
3/6/2026 at 10:13:02 PM
Layoffs as you consolidate operations between enterprises. See Capital One laying off thousands at Discover Financial after their acquisition.Capital One to lay off more than 1,100 in latest cuts at Discover Financial HQ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47270442 - March 2026
by toomuchtodo
3/6/2026 at 11:06:29 PM
> that everyone else is missing?To be fair, sometimes they do. Musk saw genuine bloat at Twitter. I’m doubtful one can optimize that much out of WarnerBrothers. But Hollywood isn’t exactly known for being efficient.
by JumpCrisscross
3/7/2026 at 7:36:30 AM
Very hard for me to believe Musk didn’t overpay for Twitter. So whatever he saw, I don’t think was there. Hard to know completely for sure given it is private. But I strongly suspect that money definitely would be making him more in passive investments.If the argument is that it was a stupid business decision, but he had other motives (clout, etc…), sure whatever.
by jaredklewis
3/8/2026 at 3:51:35 AM
> hard for me to believe Musk didn’t overpay for TwitterAt the time? Probably. With the benefit of hindsight? Probably not. Twitter would have made a killing on its own licensing its data to AI companies.
by JumpCrisscross
3/6/2026 at 11:18:23 PM
Ya, I totally agree, given that both CEOs see some significant value here, and I trust one to be fairly calculated, I assume they’re at least partially correct. But I sincerely don’t know _what_ they think they see. If it’s just layoffs, then why doesn’t WBD see the same thing and do the layoffs themselves? If it’s IP, then why do shareholders disagree? Wtf is it, lolby pinkmuffinere
3/7/2026 at 12:32:22 PM
> Musk saw genuine bloat at Twitter.I'm reminded of a saying: "Just because they are out to get you, doesn't mean you're not paranoid."
That he was able to cut a lot from Twitter, doesn't mean he cut wisely, for reasons connected with reality. It survived the loss of teams dedicated to ongoing feature development, but the loss of teams dedicated to community management appears (from the outside) to have been the proximal cause of the loss of trust that many advertisers, users, and governments have had with the company. Cutting both at the same time suggests the action was not done from a place of wisdom, but rather that it was luck one of the cuts wasn't critical.
(This is what I expect given a Muntzing strategy: discover which components are load-baring by seeing what happens when they are removed. But when did I learn about Muntzing, and was it after Musk did his thing with Twitter?)
by ben_w
3/7/2026 at 12:28:12 PM
Musk saw bloat at Twitter but made it instantly unprofitable? I see the logic, but not sure about it.by bluegatty
3/7/2026 at 6:14:51 AM
I mean he bought Twitter for clout / soft power, the business is mostly irrelevant.He arguably single handedly shifted the entire Overton window in the US to the right, and got his preferred candidate elected.
It's reasonable to assume that Ellison is interested in the exact same kind of power, but over the broader culture.
by JeremyNT
3/7/2026 at 12:38:58 AM
Can’t you replace a lot of Hollywood with AI now? What am I missing?by rayiner
3/7/2026 at 12:44:15 PM
Not "a lot" of Hollywood, not yet.Short clips are doable, but the coherency duration before it goes weird just isn't there yet, unless you're OK with very short segments (like, single-digit seconds) between each AI-equivalent of a cut. That will probably improve, but the tech isn't there yet for "a lot", it's like CGI in the 90s rather than CGI as it is today.
That's aside from how AI output isn't copyrightable, which may or may not matter depending on if your goal is money or propaganda.
by ben_w
3/8/2026 at 4:15:06 AM
You haven't been seeing what's been coming out of models from China. Hollywood is the Wiley coyote that hasn't looked down yet. They're turbo fucked.by fragmede
3/8/2026 at 4:02:27 PM
I keep up to date via Two Minute Papers, but I also take note of teams like Corridor Crew: Hollywood are not yet turbo-anything.They may become so, I don't know how resolution and temporal coherency scale, but right now Hollywood's biggest problem from China is that China's got 1.5 billion people who are just as capable of learning SFX as anyone in the US.
by ben_w
3/8/2026 at 7:21:50 AM
> You haven't been seeing what's been coming out of models from China.Citations?
I haven't, and would be genuinely curious if it is better than the AI short clip slop that appears on YouTube and really just needs to be taken out back and shot.
I have no doubt that its coming, I just haven't seen it yet.
by happymellon
3/8/2026 at 3:56:46 PM
I think there's two things contributing to YouTube slop, the earlier generations of free model being one, the other is more fundamental: most people using these tools for slop only care about advertising money, they neither know nor care about how much of a difference artistic taste makes (hence also why there's so many YouTube shorts which are just a clip from a random TV show with inappropriate music added, sometimes as a mic-drop, sometimes just obscuring the dialogue, but how even are YT shorts monetised?)FWIW, there are models which are better than the majority of the YouTube slop I've seen*; but even then, when I show short clips from e.g. Google's "Flow" generator to others, those others find the results unimpressive. Also, the voice range is weird, my experience playing with them it had a much harder time of creating a decent working-class British accent than Dick Van Dyke.
However, amongst the various issues Flow has, the most obvious is length, because even though Flow lets me "extend" a clip, it's not got enough coherency between each (8 second?) segment when I do.
The second biggest issue is that, as with Stable Diffusion before it, it quite often produces stuff you just don't want. Junk dealers don't care about that and use the first result, an artist can afford to do 10 attempts and pick the right one, and will care to, too. That's something I can at least expect will be solved, or has been on non-free tools (control nets etc.) even though I don't expect slop dealers to ever bother with them.
If each 8 seconds of video was actually Hollywood quality (they're not, in any sense including resolution) and they were coherent when extended (likewise, they're not), as there's 750 times 8 seconds in a 100 minute film, it would still be an existential threat to Hollywood if those segments cost $1333, because that's a million dollars and in the cost range of "micro-budget indie", rather than the tens of millions that even normal-indie films cost (before marketing etc.) or hundreds of millions that blockbusters cost.
I have no idea how video generators scale up in cost with time or resolution, let alone quality, so I don't want to make guesses on how much extra compute (or indeed training data) would be needed for a coherent 2 minute cut-equivalent at 4k. As I don't like the epistemic collapse we're already witnessing with clips from video games being passed off as coverage of warfare, I very much hope this is one of those things which fails to scale up.
* although even with early models, if you wield them as an artist rather than as a slop merchant you get interesting output; you may remember the Harry Potter Balenciaga videos from a few years back, same channel and you can see how things have changed: https://www.youtube.com/@demonflyingfox/videos
by ben_w
3/9/2026 at 11:24:10 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/aivideo/comments/1pu8smq/lord_of_th... is the tip of the iceberg.by fragmede
3/9/2026 at 12:16:19 PM
Cuts/scene transitions: 5s, 7s, 8s, 11s, 13s, 14s, 17s, 20s, 25s, 27s, 29s, (and then several continuously overlapping transitions), 36s, 38s, 39s, 40s, 42s, 43s, 47s, 49s, 50s, 52s, another at 52s, 54s, two more at 55s, two at 57s, 1:00, …This is demonstrating the specific limitation I was talking about. And also, some of those scenes, if you pause on them, they've got the slightly-off vibes of GenAI content, a casual viewer is only missing that because the scenes change so quickly. Something something moonwalking gorilla.
An artist can make a work of art despite the limitations of whatever tool they use (and indeed may get a kick out of doing just that), that doesn't mean the tool can do everything.
I myself am working on a GenAI musical comedy sketch video, but it is only possible with current tech because there's a good opportunity to make cuts every few seconds.
by ben_w
3/7/2026 at 3:30:39 AM
Not if you want to copyright the outputby bandrami
3/7/2026 at 9:06:55 PM
> Not if you want to copyright the outputThat gets tricky: To the extent that an AI is just a tool — along the lines of a trained pair of hands executing a human prompter's specific, detailed instructions — the human prompter might qualify as an "author."
From the U.S. Copyright Office in January 2025:
"The Office affirms that existing principles of copyright law are flexible enough to apply to this new technology, as they have applied to technological innovations in the past. It concludes that the outputs of generative AI can be protected by copyright only where a human author has determined sufficient expressive elements.
"This can include situations where a human-authored work is perceptible in an AI output, or a human makes creative arrangements or modifications of the output, but not the mere provision of prompts.
"The Office confirms that the use of AI to assist in the process of creation or the inclusion of AI-generated material in a larger human-generated work does not bar copyrightability.
"It also finds that the case has not been made for changes to existing law to provide additional protection for AI-generated outputs."
https://www.copyright.gov/newsnet/2025/1060.html (emphasis and extra paragraphing added).
by dctoedt
3/8/2026 at 12:59:01 AM
The closest analogy is to a music producer sampling public domain audio. The composition will be protected by copyright but each individual sample will not.Every single CGI rendered frame of Shrek is protected by copyright because it was human authored. It they used a diffuser to make Shrek 7, the individual frames would not be protected by copyright but their arrangement into a movie could be. That's a hugely different legal situation (for instance, if I chopped it up and made my own remix of it that would be protected).
by bandrami
3/8/2026 at 1:46:17 AM
Though this is complicated by the fact that the LLM initial training may have been massively illegal (or at least massively tortious). There's still a bunch of legal shoes to drop, one way or the otherby bandrami
3/7/2026 at 11:58:05 PM
Interesting, thank you for sharing. That’s surprising to me though when you see the reasoning it makes sense.by rayiner
3/7/2026 at 2:12:32 AM
Prove itby CyberDildonics
3/7/2026 at 1:21:48 AM
[dead]by onetokeoverthe
3/6/2026 at 10:14:29 PM
There is a large history of companies with too much money (or access to borrowing) using it to buy up shiny objects. Whether it is CEO pride, greed, anger, or envy, it does not seem to matter.by readthenotes1
3/6/2026 at 10:15:03 PM
See sports teams.by raw_anon_1111