3/4/2026 at 3:19:37 PM
Don’t get me wrong, this is very interesting, but there is something very funny about the idea that “give a chimpanzee stuff and see if they like it” is academic research.This could absolutely be a headline on The Onion.
by JoelMcCracken
3/4/2026 at 9:55:16 PM
there is something very funny about the idea that “give a chimpanzee stuff and see if they like it”
This is the premise behind the "Ignobel prize" – awards for scientific research which at first-glance may appear to be an April Fool's prank, but genuinely advance the cause of scientific research. "the extent to which a certain kind of lizard chooses to eat certain kinds of pizza"
"what a nursing baby experiences when the baby’s mother eats garlic"
"some real plants imitate the shapes of neighboring artificial plastic plants"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ig_Nobel_Prize
by manarth
3/4/2026 at 11:46:28 PM
I love the ignoble prizes, receiving one is a bucket-list item for me! I’ll need to step up my game though and do more weird things, I’m hoping I can put this off till the last 5-10 years of my career.by pinkmuffinere
3/5/2026 at 4:22:35 AM
That was my reaction as well, they're really shooting for an Ig Nobel with this one.by pseudohadamard
3/4/2026 at 4:41:14 PM
Sure seems stupid on first glance but most science seems pointless. It’s only when several loosely interconnected ideas that prove something MIGHT be commercially viable do we find out that it was the first curious question that … again seems stupid… was the seed of inivationby omegared8
3/4/2026 at 5:38:15 PM
Some would say that science can be valuable even when it does not produce commercially viable results. Making money is not the pinnacle of human experience.by matusp
3/4/2026 at 6:18:18 PM
There are plenty of scientific results that make us lose money. Un-leading our paint and gasoline, climate change, even just eating fresh fruits and veg.The main reason why the uninteresting results in science are always valuable is that negative knowledge is still knowledge. Every idea that gets kicked around and tested was something that would probably have been interesting, so knowing that it's most likely a dead end is worth knowing.
Long live the Ig Nobel Prize! I wish we had a Epic Fail prize equivalent where to honor genuinely nonsensical, failed science experiments because they're often still worth doing.
by scoofy
3/4/2026 at 4:59:12 PM
What are some examples of questions that at first seemed stupid yet became brilliant when connected with other seemingly stupid ideas?by buttermeup
3/4/2026 at 5:18:38 PM
Rather than a singular "question" that seems stupid, consider prime numbers. People toyed with prime numbers for centuries, asking all sorts of questions, with little-to-no impact on the vast majority of humans. Fast forward to the age of telecommunications: suddenly massive innovations in cryptography are being built on knowledge of prime numbers that previously was a novelty.by chao-
3/4/2026 at 10:01:17 PM
Yeah, math has a lot of ideas that seemed like silly puzzles when first explored. The term "imaginary numbers" was originally an insult (from Descartes!) for math involving the square root of negative numbers.by vharuck
3/4/2026 at 5:13:41 PM
A lot of early work into physics seemed like dumb questions at the time. When taken to the extreme “Do heavy objects fall faster?” tells you quite a bit about how the world works. And critically people intuited the wrong answers to many such questions before careful experimentation.by Retric
3/4/2026 at 9:39:49 PM
Obviously we have the benefit of hindsight, but “do heavy objects fall faster” doesn’t seem like a stupid question to me in the same way that “do chimpanzees like crystals” does.by buttermeup
3/4/2026 at 10:24:55 PM
I think we can call them both stupid in they are malformed.Let go of a feather and brick on the ISS gets a different result than doing so on top of Mount Everest. Similarly understanding chimpanzees behavior is a deeper question here noticing some chimps find some crystals interesting in some situations and moving on.
by Retric
3/5/2026 at 2:24:11 AM
My understanding is that much of discrete mathematics was considered to be purely academic until computers were invented.by harimau777
3/4/2026 at 5:28:46 PM
Microwaves were invented as hamster defrost machines. Seriously!by iberator
3/4/2026 at 6:52:40 PM
And it worked, but unfortunately humans are too big for it to work on us.They were able to freeze hamsters entirely then reanimate them with a microwave.
by gardncl
3/4/2026 at 9:36:36 PM
While that sounds like an interesting tidbit, it also doesn’t appear remotely true based off of the history sections in the wiki pages for microwaves and microwave ovens.by buttermeup
3/5/2026 at 4:46:39 PM
The Tom Scott video(https://youtu.be/2tdiKTSdE9Y) did a pretty good summary of the Percy Spencer microwave (a giant commercial oven) and the later parallel development by J. E. Lovelock of a small microwave to reheat small mammals for experiments with cryorevival (replacing lamps and hot paddles).by radishingr
3/4/2026 at 10:09:47 PM
That article is somewhat revisionist.> In 1945, the heating effect of a high-power microwave beam was independently and accidentally discovered by Percy Spencer
Sure, meanwhile using microwaves to heat stuff up dates back to the 1920’s. WWII soldiers would regularly stand in front microwave equipment to warm up. The resonant-cavity magnetron was a British invention that finally made microwaves far more efficient to produce.
The story about noticing a candy bar melting in his pocket is also kind of funny as that’s what normally happens to candy bars in your pockets, further it means he didn’t notice he himself warming up.
by Retric
3/4/2026 at 10:19:16 PM
Great comment. It's bananas. Chimps like bananas too, right?by kayo_20211030
3/4/2026 at 10:57:39 PM
I thought it was fruit flies.by oniony
3/5/2026 at 8:34:28 AM
Time flies like a banana.by jdougan
3/5/2026 at 7:23:49 AM
Fruit can't fly, sillyby ramon156
3/4/2026 at 3:29:57 PM
> But he’s also very interested in “the impact of crystals on the history of art and the history of mind,”This made my eyes roll a bit.
by dmix
3/4/2026 at 3:28:56 PM
"Breaking: Animals Have Preferences"by Razengan
3/4/2026 at 10:19:21 PM
[dead]by khana
3/4/2026 at 5:27:03 PM
Imagine if monkeys could communicate using crystals. That would be interesting - human - animal language!Research could lead into shit like cows TELLING us when feeling sick or know something etc. Food production, pets, police animals - a lot of potential uses.
The same as literally chemistry and rocks gave us transistors.
Almost no study is crazy.
Playing with glass gave us telescopes and microscopes.
by iberator
3/4/2026 at 10:18:36 PM
[dead]by khana
3/4/2026 at 3:36:24 PM
[flagged]by indoordin0saur
3/4/2026 at 4:19:21 PM
The study was in Spain- do European countries have the same sort of backlash to this stuff? Is there a province in Spain that has the equivalent to 'the senator from Indiana' that is the stereotypical anti-NSF figure in US politics? Genuinely curious about this.by panzagl
3/4/2026 at 4:15:17 PM
Have Americans tried giving them crystalsby that_lurker
3/5/2026 at 4:47:39 PM
Our scientists know not to give them that sort of power. Who knows what horrors we could see should the lower primates gain clairvoyance or telekinesis.by indoordin0saur