alt.hn

3/31/2025 at 6:08:20 PM

S&P 500, Nasdaq drop as tariffs spark recession fears

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/futures-tumble-tariffs-fuel-recession-worries-2025-03-31/

by pera

3/31/2025 at 6:37:08 PM

Is there a HN for finance?

by danielscrubs

3/31/2025 at 10:53:28 PM

Nuclear Phynance was one, but it's dead now.

by verteu

3/31/2025 at 11:13:05 PM

Ai bubble needs to burst and take the sp500 down to 300 again.

No real gains in productivity or value since 2016, just inflation.

by fleek

4/1/2025 at 3:55:36 AM

A controversial take for sure, but I can’t say I disagree. The new batch of AI tools is awesome, but this rush of capex that we’ve seen is just insane and is going to lead to a lot of blood being spilled, metaphorically speaking.

by c0redump

3/31/2025 at 6:16:00 PM

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EGSPC/

S&P is actually up as of time of the posting of this story on "HN new".

by qclibre22

3/31/2025 at 6:53:40 PM

And the Dow is up over 300: https://digital.fidelity.com/prgw/digital/research/quote/das...

NASDAQ is the only laggard, but it's still been going up all day like the rest of the indexes.

What does it all mean? Beats me, but I was wondering if all of this wasn't "priced in" to begin with.

by mikestew

3/31/2025 at 8:04:04 PM

I'm no expert.

And generally it seems most experts say there's no real predicting the market.

I think real measured growth will be slowed by these tariffs but that will take some time to really know.

However, regardless some of this is just sensationalizing which can produce some volatility which can be exploitded by large traders.

I think for many it's hard to comprehend how large the American market is compared to just about any other country and while things are shaky with recent news it's overall not going to hurt the overall American market as is feared.

Again I am no expert and everything may just rapidly crumble and the dollar becomes worthless.

by sightbroke

4/1/2025 at 12:13:49 PM

> Beats me, but I was wondering if all of this wasn't "priced in" to begin with.

The markets tend to be overly inclined to take a "nothing ever happens" position; I would expect that the tariffs _still_ aren't fully priced in (actually, they _shouldn't_ be, as they have not yet happened and are not guaranteed to happen).

by rsynnott

3/31/2025 at 11:06:35 PM

Well, if green numbers go up, we can reverse the logic of the author. That means that tariffs improved the economy! /s

More likely: any headline about "why" the numbers are moving should be taken with a grain of salt.

by y-curious

3/31/2025 at 8:02:20 PM

I find many of these financial sites to be close to BS. There’s a part they get right and part they get wrong:

1. “X happened”

2. “Because of Y”

They usually get the first bit right—the facts. Unfortunately, they frequently BS the second part.

Oddly this time I’m not even sure the facts are right on observation of today’s market.

by tyleo

3/31/2025 at 9:49:49 PM

I've been observing this for years. They predetermine the "because of Y" as it usually has to do with some narrative they are being paid to propagate.

At best the link between x and y is tenuous, and at worst it makes no sense to cause x didn't even happen.

See this one and it's a head scratcher, see it a few times and it's suspicious, see it 100 times and it appears insidious.

It's a shame. I think Reuters used to be trustworthy.

by FloorEgg

3/31/2025 at 9:55:11 PM

Doesn't the timing indicate a link? We can't wave our hands and so 'No Proof!' again and again.

by JoeAltmaier

3/31/2025 at 10:42:02 PM

No, sometimes things happen by coincidence. And in the market, where something is always going up or down, there are a lot of coincidences to be found.

by jdlshore