alt.hn

1/16/2025 at 7:22:31 PM

Suchir Balaji Case Reopened: From ‘Suicide' to 'Active Investigation’

 https://www.republicbiz.com/companies/suchir-balaji-case-reopened-from-suicide-to-active-investigation

by starbucks12

1/16/2025 at 10:11:11 PM

Just watched the mother's interview where she presented an independently conducted investigation report on Tucker's show. Doesn't appear remotely close to a suicide.

Guy was hit in the head while brushing his teeth, sat in a sitting position and shot from above. Wonder how they can get to so many peeps in positions of authority. Coroner, local PD, attorneys were all compromised.

by pavinjoseph

1/16/2025 at 10:16:22 PM

It's possible a large amount of people in the SF government are complicit in a coverup of a company-initiated murder. Or, alternatively, a grieving mother is an unreliable narrator and cherry-picking facts while being egged on by a sensationalist, anti-SF talking head.

I can't say for certain there's not more to this story. But I'd wait for more objective sources before I start to decide.

by gkoberger

1/16/2025 at 11:05:19 PM

I feel like it's also important to remember that the truth may be something else completely.

I'm reminded of Bob Lee's killing, when many initial reactions assumed it was a random act of violence and blamed city leaders for progressive policies and decarceration, but it later turned out to be personally motivated [1][2].

Similarly, in this case, the truth may not be suicide nor company-initiated morder, but something else entirely.

1. https://x.com/all_in_tok/status/1644752577475805185

2. https://apnews.com/article/bob-lee-cash-app-nima-momeni-tria...

by rirarobo

1/16/2025 at 10:56:49 PM

Adding to the list of possibilities, it's also possible that a large amount of people in the SF government are just desensitized and jaded and have a thousand-yard-PTSD-stare from seeing so much death and despair and overdoses and crimes on a daily basis, and don't really have energy or capacity to accept that this case might not be more of the same.

During the mother's interview, she kept saying that it seemed unusual that the medical examiner only looked at the scene for a relatively short amount of time. But having lived in SF, and seeing the city services operate, it just seems completely expected to me.

by phendrenad2

1/16/2025 at 10:49:28 PM

The answer is that they didn't, and conspiracy theories like this are essentially always false. Try to imagine that it was a suicide, and then you'll realize that everything makes perfect sense.

by mgraczyk

1/17/2025 at 2:31:38 AM

> independently conducted investigation report on Tucker's show

Wild that you'd believe anything from that grifter.

by DrillShopper

1/16/2025 at 10:17:37 PM

Polymarket odds are pretty low on this. https://polymarket.com/event/suchir-balaji-foul-play-determi... https://polymarket.com/event/arrest-in-the-suchir-balaji-cas...

The "evidence" seems pretty weak. A second autopsy that even the family's attorney admits is inconclusive... okay. Alleged "conflicts of interest" with the medical examiner... okay.

Seems very likely this guy was just depressed and his depression ended in tragedy. The motivated reasoning here from Musk, his family, and many others revolves around wanting to prove OpenAI is bad because they want OpenAI to be a bad guy they can pin this onto.

Not sure what OpenAI would possibly gain from this. It's not like LLMs being trained on pirated datasets is some sort of closely guarded secret.

by caesil

1/16/2025 at 11:24:22 PM

The kind of weird, backwards consensus-making where betting market odds get used as proof for whatever fact or outcome they're betting on is... interesting.

by spondylosaurus

1/16/2025 at 10:40:46 PM

How long do you think we should wait before we replace the judiciary with polymarket ;)

by sss111

1/16/2025 at 10:58:18 PM

1-800-GAMBLER is available 24/7

by cududa

1/16/2025 at 10:57:56 PM

Maybe the hard time limit is making people apprehensive. Not that I’m on the yes side, but maybe the odds would be different if the timeline was longer.

by d3nj4l

1/17/2025 at 5:22:52 AM

I’ve heard about Trial by Press.

But Trial by Polymarket is a bridge too far.

by amyames

1/16/2025 at 10:02:03 PM

Ahhh the old "suicide by 2 shots to the back of the head". Open and shut case as far as the coroner is concerned.

by par

1/16/2025 at 11:04:51 PM

What’s the source for “2 shots”?

by aoanevdus

1/16/2025 at 11:13:21 PM

it's a misremembering of a right-wing fever swamp conspiracy theory about the Clintons having people killed. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/nov/08/facebook-p...

Fun fact: future SCOTUS Justice Brett Kavanaugh shows up as part of Ken Starr's independent counsel investigation. Yes, that Ken Starr.

by aaronbrethorst

1/16/2025 at 11:23:07 PM

You’ve got the wrong person, buddy! OP is referring to Gary Webb (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb), who died from two gunshot wounds to the head, with the death ruled a suicide.

by djfobbz

1/17/2025 at 12:37:08 AM

Well, 'fun fact', it is entirely possible to miss yourself with the first bullet, only taking the face/jaw, and having to shoot a second time to cut out the pain.

Another 'fun fact', in rural areas in my country, where most firearms are long rifles used to hunt big game, 'suicide' are ruled when someone else (young kids in all cases I've heard off) pull the trigger for the person who wanted to off himself.

[Edit] And yes having a dozen cousins and aunts in healthcare, and another half a dozen being social workers means I have a lot of 'fun fact' to share.

by orwin

1/17/2025 at 1:35:57 AM

I learn something crazy everyday this was the craziest of today

by gunian

1/17/2025 at 12:26:50 AM

Although in that case, it wasn’t the back of the head, and one of the shots appeared to be non-fatal. So a terrible way to go, but not implausible.

by aoanevdus

1/16/2025 at 10:58:53 PM

This is AI spam.

There's no sources, and it's from a no-name publication from India. The article doesn't even attempt to justify the title.

This article is an AI rewrite of a Jan 12th article from Times of India[1], which cites an article from The San Francisco Standard[2].

The original article, from 1/8 (last week), merely refers to it as an "active and open investigation"... NOT that the status was changed.

[1] https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/suchir-balajis-... [2] https://sfstandard.com/2025/01/08/openai-whistleblowers-deat...

by gkoberger

1/16/2025 at 11:00:55 PM

Tucker Carlson interview with mother here: https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1879777168944685223?mx=2

Even if it is murder, it still doesn't mean it has anything to do with his whistleblowing.

by breadwinner

1/17/2025 at 2:33:05 AM

Tucker Carlson is a fraud

by DrillShopper

1/16/2025 at 10:59:20 PM

Flagged:

- The headline is newsworthy

- Nothing in article content even close to matching the headline, or attempting to.

- No primary sources.

- Strong signs of being AI generated. (inter alia, "The case now unfolding is becoming the focus of most talks on ethics, accountability, and safety within the fast-evolving artificial intelligence world.")

by refulgentis

1/16/2025 at 10:34:22 PM

I've seen this on a few very sketchy (to my eyes at least) websites or Twitter accounts. Can't they link to some more official statement? How do we know SFPD changed the status of this case? So much misinformation these days, everyone with credibility needs to link to their sources (or if personally told by an informant, etc, at least make that clear).

by ks2048

1/16/2025 at 10:39:10 PM

what is this website, really like the site design

by sss111

1/17/2025 at 2:13:25 AM

This is Republic, an indian news channel, formed because Arnab Goswami (a high decibel tv debate anchor) parted ways with his previous channel for "editorial censorship" (read pressure from political parties).

by samarthr1

1/17/2025 at 3:17:54 AM

Oh wow, always the outcasts that do the most creative work

by sss111

1/16/2025 at 9:14:25 PM

Credit to the families for spending so much time and energy to get the appropriate attention on this case. However, I wonder if too much time has passed. If there was foul play, wouldn’t the criminals involved have had enough time to clean up their tracks?

> The SFPD and the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner have withheld the full incident report and autopsy findings. The delay in releasing these documents, which typically must be completed within 90 days to maintain accreditation, has added to the controversy. Forty-three days after Balaji’s death, the investigation remains unresolved.

by blackeyeblitzar

1/16/2025 at 10:02:42 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if that was by design as well. There's a lot of money at stake here.

by par

1/16/2025 at 8:14:41 PM

The link is to a news aggregator (msn), which links to the main article from Republicbiz[1]. The hackernews guidelines suggest we should be using this link instead.

[1] https://www.republicbiz.com/companies/suchir-balaji-case-reo...

by wasabi991011

1/16/2025 at 8:40:49 PM

Email this comment to hn@ycombinator.com and they'll change it

by cwillu

1/16/2025 at 8:46:23 PM

Thanks, I've done that now.

by wasabi991011

1/17/2025 at 1:38:12 AM

If rich people want you dead you will die and no one will bat an eyelash such is the way of the world sadly if you yourself want you dead you will also find a way such is the way of the world

by gunian