alt.hn

1/13/2025 at 5:58:32 AM

IRC Driven – modern IRC indexing site and search engine

https://www.ircdriven.com/

by pabs3

1/13/2025 at 9:58:56 AM

For those looking for an IRC client; there's;

* The lounge (web based) :

* Halloy (rust, native) : https://github.com/squidowl/halloy

* Tiny (rust, TUI; easier to configure than weechat) : https://github.com/osa1/tiny

* Weechat (TUI; the goat but harder, here's a good guide to setting it up) : https://newblood.anonops.com/weechat.html

by dijit

1/13/2025 at 10:57:39 AM

There's also http://irccloud.com, it's paid and includes a bouncer and mobile apps but I've switched to that from my self-hosted ZNC + Textual (https://www.codeux.com/textual/) setup and it's very worth the money. Just having push notifications on mobile and full backlog everywhere makes this a way better experience.

It got me back on using IRC every day after not using it regularly for years any more. Just following along in channels like #postgresql / #beets / #dokku on Libera I already learned a few new things.

by dewey

1/13/2025 at 6:36:43 PM

I don't think it's quite accurate to call it a bouncer; there's no way to connect to IRCCloud's bouncer with your own client. They do provide a bouncer-like managed service though, and a pretty nice one at that. Long time user as well.

by dpedu

1/13/2025 at 6:40:12 PM

That's not correct, they are offering a bouncer if you are a paid customer: https://blog.irccloud.com/bouncer/

by dewey

1/15/2025 at 5:42:10 PM

Ah, that's nice! I guess I don't keep up with their news.

by dpedu

1/13/2025 at 12:59:35 PM

I've spent over 20 years on IRC and im still on every day. Two years ago, I felt the community could use more client options, so I created Halloy. It has since become my primary spare-time project, and I love seeing people enjoy IRC.

by culinary-robot

1/13/2025 at 4:02:19 PM

And we're all thankful you did, for various reasons ;-)

by airstrike

1/13/2025 at 4:08:17 PM

On IRC since 1997 - even still in the first channel I joined!

Writing an IRC client is really a fun and rewarding exercise.

I also more or less started my career as a software engineer by maintaining a mildly popular Linux one, at the time.

Some things I learned ...

- A lot about shipping to real users and their pain points, since the devs are naturally accessible by IRC and you get to meet directly

- A whole lot about what makes a successful technology

- Equally much about tech warts, as IRC suffers from a fair number misguided early decisions and many years without functioning governance

- How incredibly rewarding it is to work on products that users directly "live their lives" in and that can help facilitate anything they do - it taught me to look out for jobs that have similar substrate-like qualities

Good luck with your project, I'm glad to see the cycle of renewal continue.

by sho_hn

1/13/2025 at 10:52:45 AM

A few more, which seem to be used somewhat commonly:

- Emacs clients: built-in rcirc and erc, non-built-in Circe.

- irrsi (standalone TUI)

- Quassel IRC (GUI; have not tried it myself, but saw others using it).

- mIRC (GUI, for Windows).

by defanor

1/13/2025 at 1:13:03 PM

mIRC is one of the best chat programs on the market these days. It uses megabytes of ram at most for hundreds of channels. It's a modern technology miracle and I wish more people used it.

by xena

1/13/2025 at 1:21:20 PM

I haven't used IRC in years, but when I started out with IRC/MSN Chat in 2001ish it was using mIRC. That piece of software can basically answer for my becoming a developer and the career I've had over the last 20 odd years.

by k1kingy

1/13/2025 at 1:48:45 PM

Long ago I installed dozens of irc clients, joined a few dozen servers, a few hundred channels. Most didn't do well. Then there was kvirc that just sat there at 0% CPU no matter what I did.

by econ

1/13/2025 at 3:09:45 PM

> Long ago I installed dozens of irc clients, joined a few dozen servers, a few hundred channels

Maybe mIRC got bloated as of late, but my shitty Windows XP computer could easily handle multiple networks and 50-ish channels per network back in early 2000s, could it really have gotten so much worse since then?

by diggan

1/13/2025 at 3:23:09 PM

I don't actually remember how good or bad mirc was. It was the most popular client at the time but lacked things I don't really remember, it was time to move on. I tried Quassel which was nice but it got slow as the logs grew. Then i tried a lot of clients.

by econ

1/13/2025 at 4:55:38 PM

Back when I was maintaining an IRC client, my go-to stress test was to hop on Wikipedia's IRC network, where they have a bunch of firehose channels showing edits to Wikipedia stream by in realtime. Both super high load and occasionally edifying :)

by sho_hn

1/14/2025 at 3:08:08 AM

I bought a mIRC licence after I got my first job, one of the beat shareware apps!

by bdhcuidbebe

1/13/2025 at 12:58:36 PM

I use Quassel because it's a so-called "split" client, where "quassel core" runs on a VPS, and then I can run actual clients of the quassel core on several different devices, including Quasseldroid on Android. It's a much better experience than sshing into a screen session.

by immibis

1/13/2025 at 11:38:33 AM

Quassel is basically self hosted irccloud, I use it on 5 computers, Windows, Linux and Android, it's great

by mavhc

1/13/2025 at 1:03:17 PM

I used irssi for many years before switching to Weechat, and I can't imagine ever switching back.

by squigz

1/13/2025 at 5:08:27 PM

To sell The Lounge some more, it essentially acts as both a bouncer and a web-based IRC client that you can access on any device. If you want to get a friend into IRC, you can provision them an account on your instance too. I've been running an instance for years without issues.

edit: also just noticed parent post didn't include a link to it. https://thelounge.chat/

by prophesi

1/14/2025 at 11:50:57 PM

The soju bouncer world is quite nice. It is nicely integrated with 3 clients: gamja (web), goguma (Android) and senpai (golang terminal client). They are basic in some ways, but are configured for storing history and behaving like you'd expect a chat app to behave or of the box. I found it a very easy way to get started with IRC without having to keep my computer on all the time.

Soju works with other clients as well, but then requires some configuration. See https://git.sr.ht/~emersion/soju/tree/master/item/contrib/cl... for some possibilities.

I find manually configuring clients for use with a bouncers not very intuitive. The quality of integration depends on which protocols each client supports. So, I'd recommend trying the clients I lists above first.

There are two hosted soju services I'm aware of, both about $20/yr (both are a part of a larger service, but the price is good even if you just use the bouncer). Both include gamja, so installing your own IRC client is not required.

https://man.sr.ht/chat.sr.ht

https://pico.sh/bouncer (also accessible as an ssh app)

You can also self-host soju/gamja, but that takes a bit of work.

by ilyagr

1/13/2025 at 2:08:19 PM

https://c9x.me/irc/

A retarded C compiler, a TLS lib if you want TLS, and you are good to go.

by sylware

1/14/2025 at 4:25:49 PM

AI BOTs, when I said "retarded C compiler" it meant a small and simple C compiler is enough, for instance tinycc, cproc, scc, etc

by sylware

1/13/2025 at 4:59:12 PM

some of us do not want to be found. obviously the easiest way to opt out of (most) of these things is to use a port other than 6667 and 6697, but when you've been operating on those ports for 10+ years, and you have an old friend who wants to pop in, how do you announce that you've moved to port 12000? adding a server password is another option, but we run into the same problems.

my IRC network in the past has had issues with script kiddies disrupting us and causing drama and claiming that our IRC server was insecure (it wasn't), and we figured out that they had found us through another IRC indexing site - one which we weren't aware were indexing us. another problem was someone adding a "partyline" bot to our server, which opened a channel to all other "partyline" channels that the bot had been added to. cute idea, but we did not ask for this, someone just plunked it in our server and left.

I wish there was a robots.txt for IRC, or at the very least for the indexers to tell one of the admins, "hey, we're indexing your server, please let us know if you don't want us to do that". we want to be left alone.

by alekratz

1/13/2025 at 11:57:56 AM

At the risk of hijacking the thread, for a somewhat equivalent on the Jabber/XMPP side of things, there is https://search.jabber.network

https://providers.xmpp.net/ to help find a provider

https://xmpp.org/software/ to help find clients/servers

by ezst

1/13/2025 at 6:16:37 PM

For XMPP, the problem is unfortunately not just discoverability – actually joining the discussion is becoming more and more of an ordeal.

Many once-popular servers have stopped accepting new registrations (e.g. jabber.ccc.de), were involved in some nation state espionage activities [1], or simply seem to no longer be around.

For modern clients, it's not looking much better. There's always a promising new one around for a while, only to not live up to the expectations and become the "still current best but unmaintained" option of the future.

As much as I like XMPP, I can't help but notice that its future looks somewhat grim.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37955264

by lxgr

1/14/2025 at 12:04:22 AM

> once-popular servers have stopped accepting new registrations

That's why providers.xmpp.net gives a good overview on where to sign up. The clients I know of also allow you to create an XMPP address directly from the app. The whole ordeal is to choose an username and a password then.

> involved in some nation state espionage activities

This is really more of a TLS thing than an XMPP thing, since the attacker was able to intercept traffic with a valid TLS certificate. Of course the second line of defense is E2EE here, but arguably, since the XMPP community was directly affected, they learned (monitoring certificate logs, channel binding , DANE, https://certwatch.xmpp.net/ ) a lot about defending even against this level of attacker from this incident.

> still current best but unmaintained [client]

I wonder which one you are talking about. My recommendations are Conversations, Gajim and Monal. They're all modern clients, actively maintained and have been around for a while now.

by zaik

1/14/2025 at 12:22:35 AM

> My recommendations are Conversations, Gajim and Monal.

Conversations is indeed almost perfect on Android (I really wish it could use optionally use XEP-0357), but I mainly use iOS.

Monal looks nice, but I'm just generally wary of these single-engineer passion projects – ChatSecure looked nice before as well, and Monal could see the same fate any day.

> That's why providers.xmpp.net gives a good overview on where to sign up. [...] The whole ordeal is to choose an username and a password then.

The problem isn't finding one that lets you register, it's finding one that will reliably still be around in a few years.

If XMPP were to offer a lightweight, DNS-based "identity handle", this wouldn't be as much of a problem (as clients could back up your contact list and keys etc.), but as it is, if a server ever disappears, your lose everything.

That said, I do trust the people running conversations.im, and it even seems to be free at this point! (Down from EUR 10/year, which is nothing if you value XMPP, but an almost insurmountable hassle when trying to onboard any friends/family.)

by lxgr

1/13/2025 at 8:26:48 AM

Unfortunately we need this for Discord a lot more. Really should be a default thing instead of extra steps and on by default with the possibility to export to something else (static html with some search engine) so it doesn't depend on the discord server running.

by anonzzzies

1/13/2025 at 4:23:17 PM

That's why I loathe any project that picks Discord (or worse, fucking Slack) when Zulip exists, is open source, offers hosting for open source projects, and ships with "publish these channels to the web": https://zulip.com/help/public-access-option#enabling-web-pub...

To see it in action, feel free to open this in an incognito window, it won't prompt you for credentials https://leanprover.zulipchat.com/

by mdaniel

1/13/2025 at 6:31:46 PM

Zulip seems to rely too heavily on Javascript to be indexable by search engines. I copy-pasted some sentences from month-old posts on https://leanprover.zulipchat.com/ into Google and Bing, and neither could find the posts.

by progval

1/13/2025 at 6:59:13 PM

Search engines are great at rendering content using JavaScript, they're just not able to explore the Zulip web application's URL structure, so they tend to index one page per Zulip installation.

The current solution is that projects that want their publicly available content to be search engine indexed set up https://github.com/zulip/zulip-archive, which usually involves hooking a GitHub action up to GitHub Pages for a 0-infrastructure deployment. Ultimately, that's the same model as an IRC indexing project like this one: a separate tool from the chat server is responsible for search engine indexing.

Lean runs one here: https://leanprover-community.github.io/archive/, but it looks like it hasn't updated in a year, so likely whoever in the Lean community needs to investigate why it isn't updating.

https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/21881 tracks our goal of making the server natively offer search engine indexing. The current separate archive tool model has some advantages (search engine load can't break the server, for example), but I think it'll be worth doing the native version when we can find the resources for it.

Source: I lead the Zulip project.

by tabbott

1/13/2025 at 8:47:04 AM

Discord community servers can already be searched and discovered. Which is effectively what this is about. I suspect you are more talking about the conversation on discord?

I don't think the actual chat conversations need to be indexed, in fact as a platform for chat I appreciate discord for what it is. though irc also worked fine for me back in the day.

What annoys me more is the fact that discord these days is also used as a substitute for forums and such. There is so much information just hidden on discord you will only find when you know to join specific servers because there is no way to search for that information from the outside.

For some topics and subjects that is fine. But for support for software (even open source) I feel that it is a loss and actually has contributed to a decline of information availability on the internet.

by creesch

1/13/2025 at 1:05:02 PM

> What annoys me more is the fact that discord these days is also used as a substitute for forums and such. There is so much information just hidden on discord you will only find when you know to join specific servers because there is no way to search for that information from the outside.

Which would, of course, be solved by having those conversations indexed and searchable on the web.

by squigz

1/13/2025 at 6:12:08 PM

> Discord community servers can already be searched and discovered.

By those that have an account and that know on which "servers" to find the content they're looking for.

> What annoys me more is the fact that discord these days is also used as a substitute for forums and such. There is so much information just hidden on discord you will only find when you know to join specific servers because there is no way to search for that information from the outside.

And that's exactly the problem. Discord is a great Teamspeak successor (I suppose; I've never used that). It's a horrible substitute for a bug tracker, development roadmap, forum, release announcement feed etc.

by lxgr

1/13/2025 at 9:20:53 AM

Excellent, I was looking for new channels to join and idle on.

In all seriousness, I hope this helps index some more active servers and some communities to grow. IRC was a big part of my life back at the turn of the century, but I spent some time last year sniffing around for my old haunts. They were either graveyards or did not exist anymore, sadly.

by 0xEF

1/13/2025 at 10:23:34 AM

I used IRC in my teens as an early social network but has since never used.

If I wanted to get involved in say more technical/niche channels outside my expertise, is there any advice or unwritten rules I should know?

Perhaps a better question, how should you participate (as noob) without getting Stack Overflow beatings, and show respect of other people's time?

by DoingIsLearning

1/13/2025 at 10:34:39 AM

I think it is about as varied as communications outside of IRC: there are different communities with different rules, which are sometimes written down and linked from the channel topic. Generally hanging around quietly for a bit may help to get a sense of any particular community's customs.

by defanor

1/13/2025 at 2:40:21 PM

> Perhaps a better question, how should you participate (as noob) without getting Stack Overflow beatings, and show respect of other people's time?

As long as you adjust when people give you guidance (if needed), you'd be fine.

Everyone does something bad/ill accidentally every now and then, it's not the end of the world, apologize, learn and move on. It becomes a huge hassle for everyone involved when it's repeated even after being told it's wrong, so just listen and follow what others (ops) tell you.

by diggan

1/13/2025 at 8:37:21 AM

I just got sucked down the rabbit hole looking at all the super low pop servers here: https://www.ircdriven.com/networks/list/ definitely some interesting looking stuff, very esoteric websites. Cool.

by WD-42

1/13/2025 at 9:16:46 AM

This is a fun one to look at: https://www.desktopmasters.com/ I love how the download for Java still links to JDK7 :)

by Twelveday

1/13/2025 at 10:06:57 AM

I ran a site like that in the late 90s/early 00s (iirc) where we'd make available a server file containing user-submitted servers. We also ran news and interviews of notable IRC people. Fun times.

by pluc

1/13/2025 at 8:44:13 AM

I wonder how they choose which networks to index.

I’ve been running an IRC network for 20 years, that currently has a few thousand users on it. Yet it does not seem to be indexed.

there was another topic recently about nostalgia regarding the old Internet, one of the arguments presented in centralisation is that discoverability is much improved-

by dijit

1/13/2025 at 8:49:52 AM

There is a "submit network" button in the menu ;)

by creesch

1/13/2025 at 10:43:01 AM

Looks like it is broken, I got a HTTP 5XX error.

by pabs3

1/13/2025 at 9:04:45 AM

Looking at the statistics I can't help but notice how small IRC is these days. Specifically when you compare it to how many people use the internet. The biggest channels have a few thousand people in them, but those seem to be rare.

One of the biggest channels ironically is one for an IRC client called "the lounge". Which is a very nice web based client with bouncer build in. Though I might be biased as I did contribute to the project years ago.

I was a dedicated IRC user for a long time, even going as far as developing this monstrosity: https://github.com/creesch/discordIRCd

At some point I didn't see the point anymore, as it clearly was just old guard sticking around with no one new joining.

It is a shame that discord as a closed platform is the de facto standard though. I am not sure things could have gone differently. Considering how glacial IRC development was at the time and the convenience and features Discord offers over alternatives like Matrix. I know that Matrix these days has a lot of the same features but certainly is not there as far as convenience goes.

by creesch

1/13/2025 at 9:43:45 AM

I think that the biggest IRC channels are on twitch. Large streamers have tens of thousands of people in their channels, and probably the servers must have millions in aggregate.

by mariusor

1/13/2025 at 2:30:33 PM

I didn't know twitch uses IRC, though I wouldn't categorize in the same box as traditional channels and networks either. I mean, the protocol might be the same, but it clearly is used in an entirely different context.

by creesch

1/13/2025 at 3:24:35 PM

I mean, you can connect to twitch using a standard IRC client. And it works equally well, better in some respects, as the browser chat has become a sluggish mess. There are stand-alone twitch chat clients now which support all its extra bling, but AFAIK they are just glorified IRC clients.

by mariusor

1/13/2025 at 9:14:53 AM

I've always wondered, why was IRC not developed further? Some of the features people take for granted in chat clients today never made it to IRC.

by nkzd

1/13/2025 at 9:26:24 AM

It was, someone already pointed you to ircV3 which attempted to bring a lot of modern features to irc. But besides the specification process being slow you also had to content with all the different clients and networks. Most of which at that point in time already had stagnated in development.

by creesch

1/13/2025 at 1:00:57 PM

If it supported things like picture messages, then it wouldn't really be IRC any more. I suppose you could create a new protocol that's most similar to IRC, but when creating new protocols, people typically want to make other improvements at the same time, such as the ability for a user to stay in a group while offline.

In my opinion, most of the differences between IRC and Slack/Matrix/Discord/etc stem from trying to keep users in a group chat while they're not actually online, since this requires servers to store message history, and then you're legally required to have a way to moderate the message history, and you might as well send back-history to clients who just joined, and so on. Additionally, since each message is stored authoritatively on the server, it can be updated with things like text edits and emoji reactions.

Some of the differences, like being able to send pictures, do not stem from that.

I read and responded to a similar comment recently here on HN about email security. The gist of the question is "why don't we create something like email but secure?" and the gist of my reply is "if we created a whole new system, we'd add all the things we can now have that we couldn't have when email was invented, like instant notifications, and then it would be a reinvention of a newer protocol (I didn't name Matrix, Fediverse or XMPP), nothing like email.". https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42633785

by immibis

1/13/2025 at 2:52:01 PM

IRC supports picture messaging.

Encode the image to Base64, post the string and have your client decode. Or use your browser.

Simple.

by doublerabbit

1/13/2025 at 1:07:05 PM

Because there is nothing wrong with good old IRC. It was developed to a point and left alone. Trying to improve it could actually lead to overengeeniring and spoiling the protocol. If IRC is not what you want, look for alternatives. There are plenty of those.

by Borg3

1/13/2025 at 10:03:27 AM

Moxie Marlinspoke thought hard about that, here’s his conclusion: https://signal.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving/

by cpach

1/13/2025 at 11:36:34 AM

That's more Moxie's PR department rationalizing why they didn't go for the better (more resilient, more privacy respecting, more flexible, freer) decentralized approach. It's also extensively debunked: https://gultsch.de/objection.html

by ezst

1/13/2025 at 3:18:34 PM

Ok. So what do you think are the reasons that IRC has lost marketshare to Slack and Discord?

by cpach

1/13/2025 at 4:18:06 PM

I would assume it's mostly marketing. There's no entity behind IRC to push its adoption and herd the cats to a singular goal.

The lack of features that Slack/Discord specifically added to differentiate themselves from IRC are also important, but it was a lot simpler to add them to their brand new designs, than to work through having to specify them onto the IRC protocol and then get servers and clients to adopt it. You can look at the IRCv3 page linked higher in the thread to see some of the efforts, but this is 10 years later and we're still not there. :D

by mariusor

1/13/2025 at 11:49:37 PM

Popular irc servers still haven’t adopted ircv3, effectively holding all of irc back from making progress.

by qudat

1/14/2025 at 11:48:01 AM

I rest my case.

by cpach

1/13/2025 at 2:42:13 PM

> I've always wondered, why was IRC not developed further?

Personally, part of the charm of the IRC protocol is the simplicity. You can implement a client effortlessly in most languages in just an hour or two.

by diggan

1/13/2025 at 9:41:19 AM

The instant messengers did that.

Then slack did the modern IRC client.

by j45

1/13/2025 at 11:16:13 AM

I'm so old I remember the days when Slack had built-in IRC integration :)

by theshrike79

1/13/2025 at 4:17:43 PM

I thought I read somewhere the early versions of slack actually ran on irc.

by j45

1/13/2025 at 4:23:23 PM

The small nature of irc is a benefit in my opinion. Theres a certain type of person that only seeks out the place with the biggest audience, and they are notably absent now. Way fewer trolls too. Libera is super cozy these days.

by WD-42

1/13/2025 at 11:27:30 AM

> I know that Matrix these days has a lot of the same features but certainly is not there as far as convenience goes.

For what it's worth, the whole Matrix community has been solidly plugging away improving convenience and making good progress - all the new Matrix 2.0 APIs, and on launching Element X on the Element side: https://matrix.org/blog/2024/10/29/matrix-2.0-is-here/ and https://element.io/blog/we-have-lift-off-element-x-call-and-... etc. A lot of the "Matrix isn't good enough" trope is a few years old now.

by Arathorn

1/13/2025 at 2:27:58 PM

I mean yeah, that is all true as Matrix has slowly been improving over the years and is more user-friendly than it was years ago.

But the reality is also that it has also been a decade since Discord was released. Meaning that for almost a decade people have been able to experience a very low threshold experience of joining entire servers and creating their own.

I don't want to discredit all the work that went into the protocol and clients. All I am saying is that after almost a decade it is quite clear that as far as IRC replacements go most of the internet moved to Discord. Which I also am not a fan of, but I can see why it did happen as Matrix simply didn't have all the features back then. I also do recognize that Matrix at this stage is much more user-friendly and offers many of the features discord also does. Spaces in place of servers and at least one client that is still quite okay. Though I do think some of the things I said a few years ago still apply https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30328120#30333252.

And the fact that after a decade there is still only one client having feature parity still stands out to me. I know that discord officially only has one client. But since there are multiple clients advertised for matrix it does add to confusion and therefore detracts from convenience.

Having said that, I firmly believe there is a place for matrix. It is clear there are vibrant communities on the platform, so I am not saying it is a dead platform. Just also not one that I see being more widely adopted in the near future.

I also have seen other applications that I found quite novel and pleasant. Just last year I had to do an online interactive training with a trainer. The platform itself with breakout rooms and trainer interaction was all based on matrix and element as far as I could tell.

by creesch

1/14/2025 at 6:35:19 AM

I'm about to ditch it entirely because my friend who uses matrix.org cannot see images I send from my homeserver, and vice versa. I thought I fixed all that nonsense when I turned on authenticated media months back but it keeps happening. Kinda pathetic after this many years.

by floren

1/14/2025 at 10:51:46 AM

Sounds like your homeserver is having problems, or authenticated media wasn't turned on right. If you can chuck a bug into github.com/element-hq/synapse/issues we'll look at it.

by Arathorn

1/13/2025 at 12:27:46 PM

I wouldn't expect any other sentiment from the head of Matrix, to put it more bluntly.

by eptcyka

1/13/2025 at 2:04:54 PM

Looking at the site I have my doubts, that this is modern at all. Don't get me wrong, I have no objection. I just wonder what justifies the modern predicate.

by mogoh

1/13/2025 at 2:33:51 PM

"Modern" can refer to more things than just "pretty" web design. If you reject things based purely on visual impression (especially technical communities), you'd miss out on lots of great things, Hacker News being a very relevant example :)

Why they call it "modern" is outlined in the very first paragraph:

> Originally started in 2006, inspired by the now defunct SearchIRC [...] Our goal is to bring awareness to IRC, help modernize the IRC platform and prove that IRC is not dead

by diggan

1/13/2025 at 3:40:23 PM

The de-facto leading IRC indexing site is netsplit.de

Compared to that, IRC driven looks more modern.

by J-Kuhn

1/13/2025 at 2:34:29 PM

Is it because it's lacking huge empty spaces (looks like HN)?

by voytec

1/13/2025 at 11:26:03 AM

The couple of channels I took a look at have logging disabled. So this is more of statistic information?

MM/DD timestamps is big yikes.

by Mashimo